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Posted: January 04 2011 at 13:15
Dick Heath wrote:
I'm told by bass players that one of the definitive books on the subject is by bass virtuoso Jonas Hellborg - so surprised no mention of any of his numerous recordings in this style. What of Jeff Berlin's 5G with Bruford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47aYmY0QLLc
i was just getting to Hellborg
"e" is one of my favorites, and is slap bass-heaven
as for the Victor Wooten comments, i dont know what to say. I love jazz-fusion, so i love BF&TFT, and enjoy his solo work, as well as Vital Tech Tones, and whatever else i find him on. Of course, he's nowhere near my favorite, but enjoyable nontheless
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 00:05
Don't know about Wooten solo but I love his contributions on Bela Fleck and The Flecktones and the album with Prasanna. Maybe, solo he gets carried away but excellent as a dominant bassist in the band. Krystoff Gildenlow (if I spelt that right) is one name I didn't see mentioned, good slap bass for Pain of Salvation though I felt it was kind of redundant in their music and only called too much attention to itself.
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 00:56
David Hungate and Mike Porcaro from Toto, both great bass players, great technique, understated players at times, yet they play "normal" style most of the time and when they do "pop" it's usually very tasteful and not overdone.
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 09:38
obviously relying on one technique can become cheesy just like tapping or sweep picking can grate on the ears or the way that pinch harmonics were overused in 90s metal however thats not to say that once in a while these techniques can't add to a song or be used innovativly. I say slap on!
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 13:32
Xanatos wrote:
I just found slap a overused/abused technique in bass playing
Does that mean it sucks? No musical techniques SUCK.
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How old are you, 9?
Theres no moderation in the use of slap in today bass players at all , they abuse of it , i even found great bass players like wooten and claypool boring because of their overuse of slap ,
So does that mean "slap bass sucks"? Wooten is an extremely good player, that just happen to specialise in slap bass. It's like a guitarist specialising in sweep picking (Gambale) but you don't see educated musicians going onto forums and saying "sweep picking sucks" do you?
the only guys who are safe from this nocive technique are the real jazz players :)
Wrong again, slap originated from Jazz Funk, which is a subgenre of Jazz. Real jazz players play slap, you have somehow presumed that jazz bassists are restrained to basic finger technique. Obviously this doesn't apply to upright players... And just what exactly is "real jazz" anyway? Can you put it into words? Give me some examples of "real jazz" players. It's a very broad genre that could potentially cover half of modern music.
Can someone please show me a good bass solo without (?) slapping that isnt porn music and isnt tech death metal (?)?
To answer your question literally, I would say quite a few renditions of jazz standards over the past god knows how many years jazz has been around?But with slap bass? Well you only need to look into the realms of Funk, Soul, Acid Jazz, Gospel and Jazz Fusion to find a few good ones.
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 13:39
I generally don't like slap bass. At best, it reminds me of good funk, which I rarely like but it's still all right. 99% of the time it reminds me of 311 and Incubus's first album. Nope.
Pick bass is underrated, though. Sure a lot of sh*tty punk bands and even less talented than normal bassists use it as a crutch, but Rickenbacker + pick = the chunkiest bass you heard in yer life. It's basically 50% of what makes Pallas excellent; strong bass presence that kicks your face off.
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Posted: January 26 2011 at 13:42
Slap bass doesn't suck by itself. But too many bassists tend to overuse thinking it makes them sound great, and too many people actually fall for the trick, that the claim gains some credibility.
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