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thrak76 
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 Posted: September 22 2011 at 16:04 |
 Nightfly wrote:
^ I still tend to prefer a stereo mix thoug it has to be said that it's mainly because my 5.1 system in terms of quality and speaker placing (due to space) can't compete with my hi-fi. |
Yeah, an improperly (or compromised) setup surround system can actually be a distracting, in comparison to a stereo mix.
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Tony R
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Posted: September 22 2011 at 14:11 |
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Nightfly
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Posted: September 22 2011 at 14:04 |
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^ I still tend to prefer a stereo mix thoug it has to be said that it's mainly because my 5.1 system in terms of quality and speaker placing (due to space) can't compete with my hi-fi.
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thrak76
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 21:16 |
Tony R wrote:
Listening to the 5.1 mix now.
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First post here. Was inspired by the thread. Long time listener of Prog though... I really dig the 5.1 mix. I do feel it's their finest 5.1 mix yet; Ghost Reveries being my least favorite mix. You'd think that Prog bands would gravitate towards multichannel releases, but they are few and far between. You can really connect with the music in a different way than just a stereo mix presents. I wish that many more bands would release multichannel mixes. Opeth are one of the few that have been doing it for awhile now. Also, I'm a fan of the album as well. I'm not versed with Opeth's entire catalog, as i really just started listening to them when Ghost Reveries dropped. Been a fan ever since. One of the high points for me is "I Feel the Dark". There are some great dynamics with that song, and really on the whole album.
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King of Loss
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 21:08 |
I really enjoy this album. It might one of my favorite Opeth albums :O
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Nightfly
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 16:22 |
I like it - it's really growing on me getting better with every play.
So what do you think, a one off like Damnation or a new direction? I tend to think the former.
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sleeper
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 11:43 |
^I think that every time someone votes for Porcupine Tree in a poll.
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JS19
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 10:27 |
Every single positive review of this album here on PA begins the review with something along the ones of 'no more rubbishy death growls'. I'm open to most stuff, and this album just doesn't cut it. There's nothing really to like, it feels flat and uninspired.
Every time I mention I don't like it, I'm told that just because it's not mega heavy does not mean it's rubbish. Strange, but, Damnation seemed ok to me. And Opeth is one of the only metal bands I regularly listen to. I just think it's a bad album, and I'm a bit bemused why this opinion isn't more widespread. But hey, if people enjoy it, that's fine by me.
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Negoba
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 08:32 |
Ok I'm listening for about the 4th or 5th time now. I like it alot. There's alot of acoustic guitar and keys. It's fresh, feels risky, definitely along the line taken by "Throat of Winter" but bigger and more ambitious. It's not perfect. But it's good.
But my opinion on Opeth has never been mainstream. I'd rather listen to Orchid than MAYH (which is just "Still Life" lite to me). I love Damnation, but hate "Burden" off Watershed.
Listening to "Haxprocess" right now...how can a prog junkie not dig this?
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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sleeper
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 06:46 |
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^Looks like the special edition CD+DVD which I've also got, minus the coin.
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CCVP
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 19:31 |
Tony R wrote:
Got my Opeth lucky coin collection today.
Listening to the 5.1 mix now.
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Wow, that's beautiful! Is that the vinyl version?
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zappaholic
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 19:11 |
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So far I've given it one listen. A very intriguing departure and yet not entirely dissimilar to the 'peth I know and love. I'll have to immerse myself in it some more, but so far it sounds like a winner.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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darkshade
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 13:40 |
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I doubt they became The Flower Kings (but hey they are both Swedish)jk
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QuestionableScum
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 13:34 |
Tony R wrote:
Give it time.
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I would be surprised if my opinion changes much. My early reaction to Heritage was very similar to my initial reaction to Watershed, and my opinion about Watershed never really changed. But who knows...I hope you are right, but I feel very underwhelmed right now.
JJLehto: My problem with the album is that it isn't original. The problem that I have with it, is that the songwriting is weak and incoherent. The same problem I have with much of Yes' work. The transitions, and use of dynamics don't seem to move the music forward, but just strike me as arbitrary.
Edited by QuestionableScum - September 20 2011 at 13:39
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 13:32 |
QuestionableScum wrote:
I love 70's prog but this just comes off as a weak imitation with some hard rock/metal elements, rather than something new and interesting for the most part.
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Pretty much what everyone is saying. Like every 70s prog band was original!!! What isn't some kind of an imitation? Kinda impossible to avoid. It's a fine album, and even if its a rip off of 70s prog...can you think of a better time/genre for Opeth to ripoff?
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Tony R
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 13:29 |
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Give it time.
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QuestionableScum
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 13:20 |
Tony R wrote:
Each to his own. To hardcore metallers this album might appear a sell out but to people like me who like their Prog heavy and their Heavy Rock proggy this album is near perfect. I gave it 8 1/2 out of 10 recently, I think I'll need to revise that up to a solid 9!
Brilliant.
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While I listen to some metal, I am not a metaller by any stretch of the imagination. I personally found Heritage weak because of its poor songwriting and forced dynamics/transitions. It is the first Opeth album that has generally bored me. I was not a huge fan of Watershed for similar reasons, but the songwriting was tighter and more coherent on that record.
Also, some of the uses of hammond and flute are just ridiculous. At points Heritage sounds likes a 70's prog parody album.
I love 70's prog but this just comes off as a weak imitation with some hard rock/metal elements, rather than something new and interesting for the most part.
Edited by QuestionableScum - September 20 2011 at 13:21
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Negoba
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 12:54 |
I like it...it's not a 5 star but it's still pretty interesting. Damnation is better, more focused. But there is more guitar soloing on this album than maybe any other Opeth album, for one thing. It's fun. Without a major change in direction, there wasn't alot more they were going to be able to say anyway. This one is interesting. Might make my year end top 10. But certainly not top 3. Need to let it sink in more.
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The T
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 11:48 |
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sleeper
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 11:48 |
The T wrote:
I'm so far from a hardcore metaller these days I wouldn't mind if the album was a straight-out pop record but if what I read about "retro-70" is true, then I'll be in for trouble. I'll buy it today. |
Its not as retro 70's as they tried to make it out to be, but the death metal is long gone.
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Opeth - Heritage
.... Well maybe maybe... I'll hope for the best... Fellow Swedes Pain of Salvation already killed my affection for them so I have to hope that these Swedes won't follow suit 
