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Posted: November 22 2011 at 15:02
Guys, do you realize how much '70s prog rock you still don't know? There are so many albums to listen to that bands can even stop recording for a century.
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Posted: November 21 2011 at 21:58
dr prog wrote:
darkshade wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Warthur wrote:
So, Dr. Prog, what happened in 1983 which made it impossible for any subsequent band to live up to your standards?
Experimenting with drum machines, more guitar, less bass creativity, bad recording production, simpler composing. It all happened in the mid and late 80s. By the 90s these bands forgot how they made great music
Then you should check other bands.
yeah lots of prog bands one after another and all recorded their first album before 1975
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Posted: November 21 2011 at 21:53
darkshade wrote:
dr prog wrote:
Warthur wrote:
So, Dr. Prog, what happened in 1983 which made it impossible for any subsequent band to live up to your standards?
Experimenting with drum machines, more guitar, less bass creativity, bad recording production, simpler composing. It all happened in the mid and late 80s. By the 90s these bands forgot how they made great music
Then you should check other bands.
yeah lots of prog bands one after another and all recorded their first album before 1975
Joined: December 15 2005
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Posted: November 21 2011 at 10:28
Prog is basically a coral reef... read all about a coral reef and replace music/prog terms in for the science/biology ones, and you'll get what I mean.
So, Dr. Prog, what happened in 1983 which made it impossible for any subsequent band to live up to your standards?
Experimenting with drum machines, more guitar, less bass creativity, bad recording production, simpler composing. It all happened in the mid and late 80s. By the 90s these bands forgot how they made great music
Joined: November 19 2005
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Posted: November 20 2011 at 20:21
dr prog wrote:
Warthur wrote:
So, Dr. Prog, what happened in 1983 which made it impossible for any subsequent band to live up to your standards?
Experimenting with drum machines, more guitar, less bass creativity, bad recording production, simpler composing. It all happened in the mid and late 80s. By the 90s these bands forgot how they made great music
Joined: September 25 2010
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Posted: November 20 2011 at 18:34
Warthur wrote:
So, Dr. Prog, what happened in 1983 which made it impossible for any subsequent band to live up to your standards?
Experimenting with drum machines, more guitar, less bass creativity, bad recording production, simpler composing. It all happened in the mid and late 80s. By the 90s these bands forgot how they made great music
I don't see waves. Looking at our database, there are great prog albums from every year. Dates are just a helpful index- nothing more.
There are great releases every year but there seem to be some in more years than in other. (1972, 1976/77). They seem to come in waves. And aparently there have been three and #4 is on the rise.
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Posted: November 20 2011 at 08:11
ExittheLemming wrote:
Yes it is encouraging and should theoretically engender more of the type of music we all profess to love on PA but I'm troubled by perhaps the only thing I ever learned from Economics: scarcity alone confers a value on anything
Did the old system (pre internet) of record deals, advances and endless touring at least result in the best rising to the top? I'm haunted by the notion that democracy in the arts leads to erm..a surfeit of mediocrity.
I agree...but....that "mediocrity is what we are discovering now. All those bands of the seventies that never made it big. Maybe mediocrity or maybe some luck on the part of those who made it?
Yes it is encouraging and should theoretically engender more of the type of music we all profess to love on PA but I'm troubled by perhaps the only thing I ever learned from Economics: scarcity alone confers a value on anything
Did the old system (pre internet) of record deals, advances and endless touring at least result in the best rising to the top? I'm haunted by the notion that democracy in the arts leads to erm..a surfeit of mediocrity.
OK but exposure and free downloads don't pay the rent?
Neither does raising children- but we still do it.
I think more and more bands are finally getting to make the music they want to make without commercial constraints and direction- and that is very encouraging.
^ Sorta agree up to a point Rob, but you have to admit that there have been certain time periods when the marketplace was more receptive to Prog artists than others?
I'm not sure that's relevant. Is prog dependent upon the marketplace? I'd say not anymore, given the large number of free downloads and streaming websites. The only thing missing from the 70s and 80s was the Internet in every home.
Older or more obscure bands now have a renewed shot at exposure.
^ Sorta agree up to a point Rob, but you have to admit that there have been certain time periods when the marketplace was more receptive to Prog artists than others?
^ There has never been as much music available in the entire world as there is now. It stands to reason that filtering has become considerably more important than identifying sources.
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