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Poll Question: Which tune from 1975 do you prefer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:04
It's a tie!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:08
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by PabstRibbon PabstRibbon wrote:

Any song by Floyd beats anything by Zeppelin IMO

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:40
Originally posted by KeithC KeithC wrote:

Agree. Not really comparable, to my mind. Might as well compare Beethoven and Mozart


Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Two not comparable. I listen more often to Shine on.


It's about as comparable as "Abacab" and "YYZ" are to "Arrakis" or Magma. Or rather, more comparable.

The only relationship between "Kashmir" and "SOYCD" is that they are among the greatest epic prog songs of 1975. However, "Kashmir" didn't compete in the "Best of 1975" poll because Zep is a "prog related" band. I expected SOYCD to win (I voted for it myself), but I was curious how close the vote would be. I thought of doing a "Stairway to Heaven" versus "Echoes" poll - both are from 71, - but it seemed to me that "Echoes" would win by a huge margin. The point being, perhaps proggy tracks from prog-related bands should be included in the year-by-year Best Of polls. :-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:43
No amount of polls will change those polls you are talking about so that is wasted effort. On the other hand you can compare these two pieces and you cdan compare Beethoven to Mozart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:29
Kashmir. It's among Zeps best tracks, imo.

I only really like the intro and build up in SOYCD. I don't think the song is that remarkable to be honest, and when the sax comes in at the end, it's one of the biggest anti climaxes in prog rock, I can think of.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:34
I really love both. 
Choosing one over the other is like choosing between a shrimp cocktail and a beautiful rabbit stew. 
I'm not saying which is which though...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:48
isnt kashimr from led zeppeling and arent led zeppelin an hard rock band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:57
Yes they are a hard rock band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:06
Originally posted by PyramidMeetsTheEye PyramidMeetsTheEye wrote:

isnt kashimr from led zeppeling and arent led zeppelin an hard rock band


Led Zeppelin weren't just a hard rock band; they used mellotrons and Moogs and mandolins and 12-string guitars and Indian percussions, and drew from disparate sources like Arabic and Indian music, folk, blues and early r&r. Plant's Tolkien-influenced lyrics could be as insrutable and mystical as anything by Jon Anderson. Page and Jones' approaches were often symphonic. See, for example, "The Rain Song." And Genesis' "Fly On a Windshield" bears more than a passing resemblance to Zep and in particular "Kashmir"s beat and atmosphere (although the Genesis tune came first?), so clearly the progsters were paying attention.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:12
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I really love both. 
Choosing one over the other is like choosing between a shrimp cocktail and a beautiful rabbit stew. 
I'm not saying which is which though...


Kashmir
is the meat stew I think, it's meatier, and the cocktail has to be the delicate Shine On Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:13
Two great songs.  I love 'em both and refuse to vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:13
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I really love both. 
Choosing one over the other is like choosing between a shrimp cocktail and a beautiful rabbit stew. 
I'm not saying which is which though...


Kashmir
is the meat stew I think, it's meatier, and the cocktail has to be the delicate Shine On Smile


Damn!!!LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:27
But rabbit, not cow? I often think of LZ as red meat, really Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:31
Easily Shine On...
You must be joking.....Take a running jump......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:37
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

But rabbit, not cow? I often think of LZ as red meat, really Wink


I don't know; I think Plant fancied himself a hobbit. And they're kind of rabbit-like. Sort of. Or perhaps an elf on a white steed, all glistening swords and gleaming arrows, galloping off to fight the hordes at Mordor in the land of the ice and snow. Bare-chested, naturally. (Unlike Jon Anderson, who was in and around the lake. Standing there.) (Or Peter Gabriel, swooning for the royalty, piping his flute.) See? Zeps were prog. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:42
^ Nice, well-said ! - so now we have to ask, what's Hobbit meat like?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:46
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

^ Nice, well-said ! - so now we have to ask, what's Hobbit meat like?


A bit like chicken, I imagine. (Sorry, couldn't resist Cry LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:24
Glory to Kashmir
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 14:34
Shine on you Crazy Diamond for my tastes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:28
How can I vote against a brilliant song from one of my favourite artists of all time, which was covered by another one of my favourite artists of all time?
 
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