Kashmir vs. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Part 1) |
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HolyMoly
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:04 | |
It's a tie!
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Horizons
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:08 | |
Gotta love it.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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jude111
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:40 | |
It's about as comparable as "Abacab" and "YYZ" are to "Arrakis" or Magma. Or rather, more comparable. The only relationship between "Kashmir" and "SOYCD" is that they are among the greatest epic prog songs of 1975. However, "Kashmir" didn't compete in the "Best of 1975" poll because Zep is a "prog related" band. I expected SOYCD to win (I voted for it myself), but I was curious how close the vote would be. I thought of doing a "Stairway to Heaven" versus "Echoes" poll - both are from 71, - but it seemed to me that "Echoes" would win by a huge margin. The point being, perhaps proggy tracks from prog-related bands should be included in the year-by-year Best Of polls. :-) |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 06:43 | |
No amount of polls will change those polls you are talking about so that is wasted effort. On the other hand you can compare these two pieces and you cdan compare Beethoven to Mozart.
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:29 | |
Kashmir. It's among Zeps best tracks, imo.
I only really like the intro and build up in SOYCD. I don't think the song is that remarkable to be honest, and when the sax comes in at the end, it's one of the biggest anti climaxes in prog rock, I can think of. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:34 | |
I really love both.
Choosing one over the other is like choosing between a shrimp cocktail and a beautiful rabbit stew. I'm not saying which is which though...
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PyramidMeetsTheEye
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:48 | |
isnt kashimr from led zeppeling and arent led zeppelin an hard rock band
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 07:57 | |
Yes they are a hard rock band.
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jude111
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:06 | |
Led Zeppelin weren't just a hard rock band; they used mellotrons and Moogs and mandolins and 12-string guitars and Indian percussions, and drew from disparate sources like Arabic and Indian music, folk, blues and early r&r. Plant's Tolkien-influenced lyrics could be as insrutable and mystical as anything by Jon Anderson. Page and Jones' approaches were often symphonic. See, for example, "The Rain Song." And Genesis' "Fly On a Windshield" bears more than a passing resemblance to Zep and in particular "Kashmir"s beat and atmosphere (although the Genesis tune came first?), so clearly the progsters were paying attention. Edited by jude111 - April 16 2012 at 08:29 |
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dreadpirateroberts
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:12 | |
Kashmir is the meat stew I think, it's meatier, and the cocktail has to be the delicate Shine On |
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spknoevl
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:13 | |
Two great songs. I love 'em both and refuse to vote.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:13 | |
Damn!!!
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dreadpirateroberts
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:27 | |
But rabbit, not cow? I often think of LZ as red meat, really
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Harold-The-Barrel
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:31 | |
Easily Shine On...
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You must be joking.....Take a running jump......
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jude111
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:37 | |
I don't know; I think Plant fancied himself a hobbit. And they're kind of rabbit-like. Sort of. Or perhaps an elf on a white steed, all glistening swords and gleaming arrows, galloping off to fight the hordes at Mordor in the land of the ice and snow. Bare-chested, naturally. (Unlike Jon Anderson, who was in and around the lake. Standing there.) (Or Peter Gabriel, swooning for the royalty, piping his flute.) See? Zeps were prog. |
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dreadpirateroberts
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:42 | |
^ Nice, well-said ! - so now we have to ask, what's Hobbit meat like?
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jude111
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 08:46 | |
A bit like chicken, I imagine. (Sorry, couldn't resist |
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MonsterMagnet
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 11:24 | |
Glory to Kashmir
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phrophus
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 14:34 | |
Shine on you Crazy Diamond for my tastes.
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:28 | |
How can I vote against a brilliant song from one of my favourite artists of all time, which was covered by another one of my favourite artists of all time?
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