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Mirror Image 
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 Posted: August 15 2012 at 23:05 |
 HackettFan wrote:
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I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that. |
Foxtrot is a fine album and is one of my all-time favorites. It's easy for me to understand why people pick it as their number one Genesis album just like I could easily see people picking Selling England By The Pound. I personally have a sentimental attachment to Nursery Cryme mainly for The Musical Box and The Fountain of Salmacis which made such a huge impression on me when I first heard them. Hearing pieces like Watcher of the Skies or Get 'Em Out By Friday is no different for me. Genesis were always such a creative band. |
Don't get me wrong. I like it. I like it quite a bit. It's all relative, I guess. To me Foxtrot lost a lot of texture in the sound that Trespass and Nursery Cryme had, and which returned again with Selling England by the Pound and the Lamb. |
There's plenty of texture in Supper's Ready and Can-Utility and the Coastliners. I personally didn't like Trespass much at all, but, then again, I don't think much of Anthony Phillips now. He's a good player, but Genesis needed something more and someone who had more edge in their playing which Hackett delivered in spades. Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway are interesting albums, but as a whole they didn't convince me like Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot. I thought songs like The Battle of Epping Forest just went on for too long. Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, The Cinema Show, and Firth of Fifth are masterpieces. I need to give The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway another listen as I don't listen to it as much as others. I really have to take my time with it as it's a double album and there's a lot to take in.
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Posted: August 15 2012 at 22:58 |
Mirror Image wrote:
HackettFan wrote:
I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that. |
Foxtrot is a fine album and is one of my all-time favorites. It's easy for me to understand why people pick it as their number one Genesis album just like I could easily see people picking Selling England By The Pound. I personally have a sentimental attachment to Nursery Cryme mainly for The Musical Box and The Fountain of Salmacis which made such a huge impression on me when I first heard them. Hearing pieces like Watcher of the Skies or Get 'Em Out By Friday is no different for me. Genesis were always such a creative band. |
Don't get me wrong. I like it. I like it quite a bit. It's all relative, I guess. To me Foxtrot lost a lot of texture in the sound that Trespass and Nursery Cryme had, and which returned again with Selling England by the Pound and the Lamb.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: August 15 2012 at 22:21 |
HackettFan wrote:
I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that. |
Foxtrot is a fine album and is one of my all-time favorites. It's easy for me to understand why people pick it as their number one Genesis album just like I could easily see people picking Selling England By The Pound. I personally have a sentimental attachment to Nursery Cryme mainly for The Musical Box and The Fountain of Salmacis which made such a huge impression on me when I first heard them. Hearing pieces like Watcher of the Skies or Get 'Em Out By Friday is no different for me. Genesis were always such a creative band.
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HackettFan
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Posted: August 15 2012 at 21:49 |
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I think I'm already record with the Lamb as my favorite (album of all time) and with Nursery Cryme as my number 2. A lot of people score Foxtrot higher than Nursery Cryme. I don't quite grasp that.
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Posted: August 15 2012 at 05:46 |
Phillips/ Hackett Era: Selling England By The Pound Post Hackett: Invisible Touch
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Posted: August 15 2012 at 05:15 |
Tough call since they made quite a few masterpieces.
Pressed to choose it would have to be The Lamb because it's double lenght, but Nursery, Foxtrot and SEBTP are right up there.
Regarding Wind and Wuthering, I love it, from a composition standpoint I find it a very strong album, even a ballad like Afterglow is gorgeous. The only weak track is Your Own Special Way which is not a shame either.
Actually everything from Trespass and up to Duke are masterpieces IMO, except And Then There Were Three which while not being bad has never caught up my attention too much.
Edited by Gerinski - August 15 2012 at 05:17
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Posted: August 15 2012 at 03:00 |
Thank you all very much first of all! :) 'Geneyesontle" I'm a newbie here. I took a look around, and the only post I found was 'Top-5 Genesis albums'. Obviously there has been another poll last year, but I had no idea about it! (Now I have). Also, I wanted to post something to see how the whole thing is working. So I posted that. Weird thing is that the results so far are very different than the last years poll! hehehehe Now, let's take a look what you have voted so far... Trespass: 1 Nursery Cryme: 4 Foxtrot: 3 Selling England... : 3 The Lamb lies... : 3 A Trick of a Tail: 5 Wind and Wuthering: 3 Abacab: 1 Genesis: 1 Duke: 2 As for myself I put an extra vote on 'Selling England...' as well. As I said before, between 'Nursery Cryme' and 'Selling England...' is very hard to choose, but if I had to choose 1, that would be Nursery. But since almost all of you are voting for 2-3 albums, eh I took the opportunity as well!  Thanks again all of you that have posted their votes, and thanks to all of you that you will do it later on! :)
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Posted: August 15 2012 at 01:50 |
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I think every song on Wind & Wuthering was fantastic. The musicianship is solid and their hearts are into it. This is just not some pop band going through the motions like so much of their later output represents to me, but rather like they were still like they were in the beginning as Hackett describes them "a songwriters collective." To those that don't like the album, then nobody can convince you of it's merits, but for those that love this album, they know why they love it and this kind of bond just isn't shared by all Genesis fans. These are the people I enjoy talking to, because they know how special the album is not only for the departure of Hackett, but kind of a memoriam for a magical time in these musician's lives. There is something so somber and mournful about this album. And all of this came to final fruition on Seconds Out. |
Quite pleased to say I agree with most of that
My only slight reservation is the live versions of One For The Vine are so much better and Collins drumming is a little 'stiff' to my ears but putting those litte things aside I love this album.
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 22:34 |
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Has anyone voted SEBTP yet? Strange result! Anyway, I will vote that, with NC close behind (and TMB being their best song).
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 16:25 |
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The Lamb... But they're all amazing. The Lamia is just about my favorite Genesis song. This should've been a poll!
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 16:15 |
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 16:13 |
Gabriel Era - The Lamb Post Gabriel w/ Hackett - Trick of the Tail Phil Collins!! - Genesis Overall - The Lamb, easily.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:36 |
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Mirror Image wrote:
This is just not some pop band going through the motions |
What is that supposed to mean? Do pop bands generally go through the motions while prog bands don't?
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Pop bands are a lot more guilty of it than prog bands. It means that they're just in it for the money instead of making an artistic statement. Not all pop bands are guilty of this, but pop music is generally aimed at the lowest common denominator. This said, I do like some pop music and it's not that I'm totally against it, I just don't think highly of it compared to prog bands. Even prog bands make pop songs and I think more highly of them than a band whose sole purpose is commercial appeal.
Edited by Mirror Image - August 14 2012 at 15:38
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:26 |
Mirror Image wrote:
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Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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Why people like Queen or Eloy is beyond me. |
And that's fine. The fact that I don't understand why people like Wind & Wuthering doesn't mean there are no legitimate reasons to enjoy it.
Mirror Image wrote:
This is just not some pop band going through the motions |
What is that supposed to mean? Do pop bands generally go through the motions while prog bands don't?
Edited by HarbouringTheSoul - August 14 2012 at 15:29
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Mirror Image
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:25 |
I think every song on Wind & Wuthering was fantastic. The musicianship is solid and their hearts are into it. This is just not some pop band going through the motions like so much of their later output represents to me, but rather like they were still like they were in the beginning as Hackett describes them "a songwriters collective." To those that don't like the album, then nobody can convince you of it's merits, but for those that love this album, they know why they love it and this kind of bond just isn't shared by all Genesis fans. These are the people I enjoy talking to, because they know how special the album is not only for the departure of Hackett, but kind of a memoriam for a magical time in these musician's lives. There is something so somber and mournful about this album. And all of this came to final fruition on Seconds Out.
Edited by Mirror Image - August 14 2012 at 15:26
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:24 |
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I re-listened to 'invisible touch' and I must confess it's not bad at all.
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:21 |
Peter G era: Trespass Four man era: Trick of the Tail (Can't stand side one of W&W, and I just don't like Phil's voice on it) Three man era: Duke but We Can't Dance is a very close second.
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Mirror Image
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Posted: August 14 2012 at 15:04 |
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Nursery Cryme or Lamb. Why people like Wind & Wuthering is beyond me.
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Why people like Queen or Eloy is beyond me.
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