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I've just spent the past hour reminding myself how blessed I am.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I've just spent the past hour reminding myself how blessed I am.


I don't do that enough! Smile



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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I've just spent the past hour reminding myself how blessed I am.


I don't do that enough! Smile


Neither do I. 
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I have emails dating back from 1999.  When I met my wife.  So cool.

She's in bed now.  I'm going to go kiss her forehead, and remind myself that she stuck with me through the worst of things.

Guys- treasure HER.  OK?
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Points: 1708 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2012 at 09:57
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

My favorite part of Galatians is Paul's emphatic proclamation on freedom in Christ; we are no longer bound to the law, as slaves, but have received our inheritance as sons of God.  We're not saved by rule-keeping, but by grace through faith in Christ Jesus, who is making us a new creation!  Legalism keeps rearing its ugly head inside and outside the church, and Paul's letter is so encouraging and convicting as a rebuttal to legalism and an affirmation of Christian freedom from the law.

Here, here.  This is something that has been on my mind a lot lately.  Too often, I think Christians get hung up over legalities and lose sight of the main point of the Bible: love God, and love people!
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Or Christians playing the one upmanship Bible quiz game.
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Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

How in the world does a church function without funds coming in? This is just a practical reason 

With Christ giving me a new heart, and His Spirit daily working in my life to grow closer to Him. To the sacrifice He went, The Whole Gospel, I can't not out of the desire of my Heart (or really the spirit entrapped in these earth suit still fighting in much opposition to His work) and what Christ has done for me and us all, not want to give Him what is rightfully His. Nothing I own including my body, thoughts, possessions, talents, and money are mine. They are all His. I'm still challenged by giving the bare minimum or tithe, I should really give everything including my life which really if I truly accept Christ is that proclamation. We should be giving beyond the ten percent, that is the starting point. Giving to the church is a solid way to first give back to God and fulfill the great commission in  reaching others. (which is what the body of Christ has the wonderful privilege and blessing to be a part of. God does not need us at all for anything).


"The Church" does not mean what it used to mean.  Some churches squander money.  Some use it to pay pastors exorbitant amounts of money.  Some churches sit on a cache of wealth.

I do not give ten percent of my income to the church because the Bible never once tells me to do that.  It tells me to be charitable, which I believe I am.

I could start a church right now and not ask a dime from anyone.  And it would run forever.  Why?  Because churches can be started in homes, which are already paid for and run.  Which is (in my opinion) how they should be run.
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Just another instance of Robbie adding his interpretation to the word of God:
"The thief on the cross whom Christ spoke encouragement and mercy to was not baptized, nor did he evangelize, nor did he have any charitable works, nor did he attend a church, nor did he give an offering.  It reminds me of a hymn: "The vilest offender who truly believes / That moment from Jesus a pardon receives.""

My copy of the Bible never says the thief on the cross was not baptized. 
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Just another instance of Robbie adding his interpretation to the word of God:
"The thief on the cross whom Christ spoke encouragement and mercy to was not baptized, nor did he evangelize, nor did he have any charitable works, nor did he attend a church, nor did he give an offering.  It reminds me of a hymn: "The vilest offender who truly believes / That moment from Jesus a pardon receives.""

My copy of the Bible never says the thief on the cross was not baptized. 


It also doesn't say he was not a Pharisee, nor a Roman, nor a wino, nor a fun guy.

Gee Tim, this is FUN.
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You said he was not baptized. Forget all the other crap you wrote. Prove he was not baptized. You said it , prove it or shut up.
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Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

You said he was not baptized. Forget all the other crap you wrote. Prove he was not baptized. You said it , prove it or shut up.


I said he was not baptized?  Where?

All right- I found where I said that.  Next time provide a link.  It isn't hard to do.

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I provided your words, is your memory failing
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Points: 32581 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2013 at 20:16
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I provided your words, is your memory failing


Well, can you remember what you posted a long time ago?

Do you know what context means?

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Points: 5319 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2013 at 20:23
I am more interested in your defense of adding to the Bible what is not there.

Context:Mycology . the fleshy fibrous body of the pileus in mushrooms.
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Points: 32581 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2013 at 20:24
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I am more interested in your defense of adding to the Bible what is not there.

Context:Mycology . the fleshy fibrous body of the pileus in mushrooms.


Can you give a specific example?  Never mind awit a sec.

Thanks for the definition of the study of mushrooms...didn't know that word.


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"Never mind awit a sec."

Well that is a weak defense.
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Points: 32581 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2013 at 20:32
OK:

I was in a debate with another Christian about Baptism.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56485&PID=4595604#4595604

If you can prove that the one thief did get baptized, then speak.

Otherwise, get over yourself and stop wasting my time.  Smile
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I  was not the one adding words to the Bible.You keep putting it on me to prove something. Why? Obviously because you cannot back up your statement. I am not wasting anyone's time with statements which are unsubstantiated. Just prove the thief was not baptized. You made the statement. You prove it.
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^If it helps, Tim, I was the one debating with Rob at the time, and I agreed with his statement that the thief was not baptized.  We can't prove it for certain, but most Christians agree that it's highly unlikely that the thief was ever baptized.  Even if he was, it would have been with the baptism of John the Baptist, which is different from the baptism instituted by Christ.

Rob was not adding his own ideas to the Bible.  He was making an inference from Scripture that practically every Christian would agree with.
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Yes, indeed, the thief was still under the old covenant because Jesus had yet to die and usher in the new covenant. This still does not mean that he was not baptized. The scripture does not tell us. If you want to infer that he was it is your right to do so. If we are going to infer things about the word of God then in my opinion I say he was most definitely baptized and for this opinion I have, and it is only an opinion, I would cite the verse in the book of John........

2Then John testified, saying: "I have seen the Spirit come down from heaven like a dove, and it remained upon him. 33And I myself had not known him, but the one who sent me to baptize in water, he told me, 'On whomever you see the Spirit coming down and remaining upon, this is the one who will baptize in the Holy Spirit.' 34And now I have seen, and now I have testified, that this is the Son of God."

And this is the finest Baptism a person can have, and the thief must have received it or how else could Our Lord have said to him:
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
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