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Topic: 70s Pop Crossover Prog tracks Posted: February 25 2013 at 10:33
Here are some tracks, most of them massive "hits" in the day, [by bands] that sometimes straddled the line between Billboard-type pop music and prog. Not all of these artists are in PA. For example, Elton John's no prog artist, but he did make a few prog-like tunes (I'm partial to the Bowie-esque "Rocket Man," but "Love Lies Bleeding" is arguably his proggiest track). Al Stewart's not in PA too, although I think he might belong - Alan Parsons produced at least 3 of his albums in the 70s. I don't believe Gary Wright's in here, but the nearly all-synthesizer "Dream Weaver" track was his ode to Pink Floyd (lyrics include: Fly me away to the bright side of the moon / And meet me on the other side), and, like 10cc's track, is pretty spacey and great. Not sure if McCartney's in PA either, but that track is crossover pop-prog if ever such a thing could exist. These tracks are often as close as prog got to Billboard.
The reason I chose some tracks - for example, Chicago's "Wishing You Were Here" - is not because it was their highest placing hit, or their proggiest hit, but rather because it's simply my personal favorite.
What's your favorite among these? And what have I left out, what track(s) would you add to this list? Feel free to vent as well. I'm quite fond of many of these tracks, but a few of them I detest. (Okay, I'll name them: Ambrosia's track, and the ubiquitous "Hotel California.") Which track offends you the most?
This thread should be moved to General Music Discussions (I won't report it, this will be seen soon enough). Most of the artists here are non-prog (outside PA) or Prog Related (in PA). And the relation with prog of most songs, as far as I know them, is very remote, if there is any.
Btw, my favourite from this list is I'm Not in Love.
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 10:48
someone_else wrote:
This thread should be moved to General Music Discussions (I won't report it, this will be seen soon enough). Most of the artists here are non-prog (outside PA) or Prog Related (in PA). And the relation with prog of most songs, as far as I know them, is very remote, if there is any.
Btw, my favourite from this list is I'm Not in Love.
I thought most of these bands are filed under "crossover prog." I'll check real quick...
Okay, I checked:
Crossover (4): Barclay James Harvest, Electric Light Orchestra, Alan Parsons Project, Supertramp
Jazz Rock/Fusion (2): Chicago, Steely Dan
Prog Related (5): Ambrosia, David Bowie, Queen, Styx, 10cc
Not on PA (7): Eagles, Elton John, McCartney & Wings, Steve Miller Band, Al Stewart, Edgar Winter, Gary Wright.
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 11:33
Not sure yet what I'll go for. That violin in "Livin' Thing" gets to me every time! (The violin bit in Jean-Jacques Goldman's great "Comme toi" is lifted right from it.) That guitar solo in Steely Dan's FM - the way the music is pared pack and the guitar is allowed to breathe - reminds me so much of Floyd's "Another Brick, p. 2" - and I've often wondered whether Gilmour was influened at all by that track for his own solo at the end. I love Alan Parsons' lush production on that Al Stewart track - and by the way, the electric guitarist on that track is Tim Renwick, whom Floyd fans may know as playing with Floyd on their 1987 and 1994 tours, and accompanying the band at Live 8. Yeah, impossible to vote for only one :-)
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 11:47
akamaisondufromage wrote:
I'd never hear the Styx one so I thought I'd check it out - wish I hadn't
Haha. Yeah, it has that slick over-produced sound they shared with Boston. (Hmm, there's a band I forgot to add, a bit proggy as well on Foreplay/Longtime.) I'm now at the keyboard/synth solo on "Come Sail Away" at the 3.30 mark - that part is quite nice, I wish it went on longer.
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 11:57
jude111 wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
I'd never hear the Styx one so I thought I'd check it out - wish I hadn't
Haha. Yeah, it has that slick over-produced sound they shared with Boston. (Hmm, there's a band I forgot to add, a bit proggy as well on Foreplay/Longtime.) I'm now at the keyboard/synth solo on "Come Sail Away" at the 3.30 mark - that part is quite nice, I wish it went on longer.
I'm a bit of a fraud i suppose as i only got to 1:36 and just knew I could do without ! Oh well def not any part of my childhood!
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 12:01
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Most are great songs, but I'll go with Come Sail Away, it was part of my youth, and that Moog solo is brilliant.
I totally agree. I think this is the first time I ever *really* listened to that section, and it's amazing. I wish it went on for another couple of minutes at least :-)
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 12:32
Horizons wrote:
Hotel California gave me a giggle though.
According to one music critic I've read, "Hotel California"'s primary musical inspiration was Floyd's track "Wish You Were Here" ("The Rough Guide to Pink Floyd"). Personally I seriously doubt it; I just don't hear it at all. Surely Floyd wasn't the first band to use an acoustic 12-string guitar. The chords are different, the picking patterns are different. But maybe it's true, stranger things have happened...
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