"Freedom" thread or something

Finnforest wrote: Maher was never the Libertarian he fancies himself.  He's a liberal statist who likes the "legalize weed" portion of the Libertarian platform.  That's it.

He still makes some good points as to why the movement has gone crazy, and does it in a funny way.

Heh heh...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/06/bill-maher-libertarianism-paul-ryan-rand-paul-video_n_3028244.html

This is EXACTLY what I have against modern libertarianism.

"To everyone who keeps trying to shame me about abandoning my Libertarian moorings, my message is this: I didn't go nuts, this movement did. Like when you see a stop light, your reaction should be 'Great, an easy way to ensure we don't all crash into each other,' not, 'How dare the government tell me when I can and cannot go!"

I'll be honest, I do think that's a bit of libertarian living in the basement-ism (sorry) at least put that way.
Few people I know had any real dreams/passions just a route to make $$ and I believe studies (limited Im sure) bear out the current generation (us below 30) are more obsessed with making a lot of $$ than previous ones.

But we're also lazy and have a f**king huge sense of entitlement. Man, I know so many personally that just think if they skate through life things will just "work out" and that they are owed everything.
In that way I see what you mean.


I am a lazy b*****d, but I don't expect to ever make much $$ from it!

From the former Obama voting liberal turn libertarian from England...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9966722/Welfare-reform-Its-class-war-but-not-in-the-way-youd-expect.html


What's crazy is when I started reading this my first thought was "the old me would say something like ah! those evil conservatives and their rhetoric have even fooled those who need it now!"
Later in the article I read that's exactly what British liberals have been saying 
More I reflect on myself, I can say with growing confidence the problem with liberalism/progressivism is clinging to ideas instead of always accepting reality (ironic?) and the need to run society. Even if you don't actively think it, there is the urge you are right, and must right the wrongs and guide society.

Both in the US and apparently England, the middle class are big welfare supporters though at least there, seems many receiving welfare think the system is f***ed up, yet they are fooled and brainwashed! Those dumb poor b*****ds good thing us smarter, well off middle classers are looking out for what they need.
Government needs to fix your issues, even if you don't want it





Edited by JJLehto - April 02 2013 at 18:43

Great article by Ron Paul.

http://www.albanytribune.com/27032013-ron-paul-neo-con-war-addiction-threatens-our-future-oped/


Edited by King of Loss - March 28 2013 at 09:39

"You're first dragon dead, using your fists. Good job, you're halfway to becoming a Viking now."

manofmystery wrote: Some prog fans enjoy lyrics containing fairtales and trolls.  Some seek to become trolls themselves.

Ironically I like it in my vidya games but not so much music.
Maybe fantasy to some extent but the only trolls I wanna hear are in Skyrim, being clubbed by my thor like skills.

Some prog fans enjoy lyrics containing fairtales and trolls.  Some seek to become trolls themselves.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!