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Topic: Poetry of Progressive Rock Posted: June 17 2013 at 03:03 |
So... has anyone ever undertaken a serious, comprehensive study of the lyrics written by the poesy of early/70s progressive rock? If one or several people have, I would be appreciative of forum members providing links to said analysis or analyses!
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 03:11 |
Tubes, probably not really the same thing, but I recall a website years ago (no idea if it even exists anymore) that looked into every line of lyrics from the Fish-era Marillion pieces, offering interpretations, references, etc?
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 03:24 |
Interesting. But I'm more specifically interested in the poetry of whom I see as the true giants of progressive rock: Yes (Jon Anderson, although Howe, Squire, etc. made significant contributions), Genesis (Gabriel, but also Rutherford, Banks, Hackett, etc.), Jethro Tull (Ian Anderson), Van Der Graaf Generator (Peter Hammill), and to a lesser extent King Crimson (Pete Sinfield, Richard Palmer-James), and to an even lesser extent (the highly over-rated) Gentle Giant.
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 03:28 |
As a matter of fact, I'm only interested in an analysis of Gentle Giant lyrics because I look forward to a revelation of just "how absolutely awful," they ", really are." LOL
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Kazza3
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 04:07 |
I came across these a while ago, they may be of interest:
http://alangullette.com/essays/music/tales.htm http://alangullette.com/essays/lit/u_and_i.htm |
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 04:08 |
Yawn....
We get it, you don't like Gentle Giant...neither shocking, confronting or clever. And boring...really f**king boring. If you weren't merely interested in `rocking the boat', getting some attention and causing an outraged reaction, I'm sure we'd be quite happy to hear your thoughts on that opinion. Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - June 17 2013 at 04:10 |
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 04:52 |
You are sure that the prog-community would be quite happy to hear my thoughts on what opinion, exactly? - That Gentle Giant's lyrics are poor? I've already touched on that in my review for Octopus - which was LAMBASTED. No offense to you yourself, but it seems to me that most members of this website who are familiar with Gentle Giant, are not interested at all in being shown, perhaps, that there isn't much to that band.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 06:21 |
Let me put it this way: had you chosen to review one Gentle Giant album the way you've done, then I gather most people would be more welcoming. You then carried on writing the same review, only with different words, for more Gentle Giant albums, and if that wasn't enough, you start a thread in the forum seeking to highlight your first review.
It's not that we, or at least I, don't appreciate different opinions - neither is it because of Gentle Giant being a holy artefact not to be messed with, but infinitely more to do with the overt narcissistic and quasi provocative manner in which all of this was conveyed in.
Edited by Guldbamsen - June 17 2013 at 06:21 |
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 06:31 |
Listen: I never started a thread to highlight a review of mine - let alone my first review. That was started by others. Don't let the popular bias against me, get in the way of looking at facts.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 06:41 |
What do you call this then?
You disguised your intentions under the banner of "Poetry of Progressive Rock", but what you really want is for someone to respond to your anti Gentle Giant fetish.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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octopus-4
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 06:43 |
From the home page...
____________________________________________________________________________________________ So with 8007 bands and artists are you still chopping our balls with Gentle Giant? Why don't you choose a different target and...not that I'm interested, but somtimes you may speak of something that you like. |
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 06:55 |
I shouldn't have to remind you that that is your perception of my intentions, and not my actual intent itself. I seriously do want resources for anthologically analyzing early (or, you might say, GOOD) prog rock lyrics.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 06:56 |
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13431 |
Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:13 |
Try this:
In a quiet little beach walked a man and a woman and on them the vast shadow of a dilemma. The man was perhaps the most audacious more stupid and conqueror she had forgiven him, not without pain. The dilemma was to always a dilemma elementary whether their love had sense or not. In a house overlooking the sea lived a man and a woman and on them the vast shadow of a dilemma. The man is an animal quiet if he lives in his den the woman is not known whether misleading or divine. The dilemma is the balance of forces in the field because the love and the fight are the forms of our time. Their love died like that of all as something normal and recurring Because die and let die is an old custom that people is used to. He spoke almost always of hope and fear as the essence of his future image. And cultivated his desire and sought the truth she listened in silence, she probably had it already. He, too, curiously as everyone was born from a womb but unfortunately does not remember or does not know. On a spring day when she was not looking chased him the look of a new girl. And still we do not know if he was innocent as an animal or if he was dumbed down from vanity. But strangely she wondered if it were not the case once again to love and to remain faithful to her spouse. Their love died like that of all with the words that everyone knows by heart they knew how to cry and suffer but without blaming time or history. This desire not to let is difficult to judge if you do not know what is old or if it please. For moments of abandonment alternated between the hardships with great tenacity that is typical of old things. And this is the summary of this story for other unimportant you could just call resistance. Perhaps the memory of that May also taught him to fail in the sense of rigor, the cult of courage. And definitely refused our ideas of freedom in love they've been unable to adopt this choice I do not know whether to say in our choice or to this our new fate I only know that they gave their death. Their love died like that of all not an abstract thing such as family they chose death for the real thing like family. I would like to see clearer revisit their path the courageous battles that were won and lost. I would like to be able to penetrate in the mystery of a man and a woman in the immense labyrinth of that dilemma. Perhaps this act of desperation could also reveal as the sign of something that we are going to understand. Their love died like that of all as something normal and recurring why die and let die is an old custom People is used to. |
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Forum Groupie Joined: March 28 2013 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 89 |
Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:15 |
I am interested in seeing whether someone already has examined Gentle Giant lyrics as serious poetical writing. I am interested to see whether, if it has been done that is to say, they also don't see much in it, like myself. If someone has undertaken this already, I would like to see some people here at Progarchives look at it for themselves. It might just do away with this hero-worship thing that GG and their 'fans' seem be involved in. This is the reason for my interest in GG lyrics. For my own purposes, however, I am more interested BY the writing of Anderson, Gabrial, et alia.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:18 |
WHADAYA MEAN GG OVERRATED? CELINE DION IS OVERRATED OK!
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:19 |
Why on earth should that interest me, if I am, as I have stated clearly, MOST INTERESTED in early prog rock poetry?
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:21 |
The view that both Gentle Giant and Celine Dion are over-rated is not characterized by conflicting opinions. What is your point?
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:23 |
Hey, it's not poetry. It's a bunch of bloody stoned rock stars man writing sh*t, Not poet laureates at a tea party. Sometimes it's cool sh*t but I wouldn't call it poetry.
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Forum Groupie Joined: March 28 2013 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 89 |
Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:29 |
Firstly, that's not an accurate way of looking at, to give an example, the lyrics written by Ian Anderson. He is strictly 'anti-drug'. Secondly, assuming 'poet laureates' are automatically gifted in the linguistic arts just because they've been granted such titles, is irresponsible thinking.
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