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I lived in Campbell and went to Jr High (82-84) in Los Gatos (Rolling Hills).  Wasn't in to prog at the time, though.Tongue


Amazing. I started out teaching at Prospect then ended up at Leigh HS. (Now we're talking late '93, way after your Jr High years). Originally I was living in the Aptos/Santa Cruz area doing these insane M-F commutes via Hwy 17. Eventually moved into Los Gatos/Campbell area and I loved it. I loved Vasona Park! There was a great coffee-house at a place called The PruneYard.

Meantime as a transplant I was doing my best to catch up with the scene with the help from a few friends. It was a crazy first year there what with work and settling in. One of my co-worker/teacher friends was also a  big Prog fanatic and he had this big bag filled with loads of cassette recordings of The Stone Trek Sunday night show! That was my introduction to Stone Trek Hour via cassette recordings! LOL

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Remember Tower Records across the street from The Pruneyard?  It was the place to go for vinyl in the 70's and CD's in the mid 80's to mid 90's.  In fact, Tower was always so insanely busy the residential neighborhood behind them had the Campbell police setup and enforce no parking zones.  Tower always had an outstanding import section with plenty of hard to find prog and shirts and eventually video...they also had a Ticketmaster booth too.  Same with their Mt View store.  Then Rasputin Records opened up a massive storefront just a half block away and did something Tower hadn't tried yet, used CD's.  Tower eventually tried to compete in the used CD biz, but the locals knew you got the best trade in prices from Rasputin, and they eventually crushed Tower out of business.  To add insult to injury, Rasputin then took over the Tower Store in Mt View too Evil Smile
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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

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I lived in Campbell and went to Jr High (82-84) in Los Gatos (Rolling Hills).  Wasn't in to prog at the time, though.Tongue


Amazing. I started out teaching at Prospect then ended up at Leigh HS. (Now we're talking late '93, way after your Jr High years). Originally I was living in the Aptos/Santa Cruz area doing these insane M-F commutes via Hwy 17. Eventually moved into Los Gatos/Campbell area and I loved it. I loved Vasona Park! There was a great coffee-house at a place called The PruneYard.

Meantime as a transplant I was doing my best to catch up with the scene with the help from a few friends. It was a crazy first year there what with work and settling in. One of my co-worker/teacher friends was also a  big Prog fanatic and he had this big bag filled with loads of cassette recordings of The Stone Trek Sunday night show! That was my introduction to Stone Trek Hour via cassette recordings! LOL

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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Hey Kati if you're from Mozambique then I'm from Planet Kepler 62. I actually saw ELP at the Saddledome in Calgary Alberta Canada. The promoter had to comp more than half of the tickets in order to make it look like there was an audience. This was '97 or '98 I believe. Shortly thereafter he had to cancel a Yes show because he was afraid that he would lose his shirt. Anybody like Terry Clark, Garth Brooks or KD Lang sell out the Saddledome in less than 20 minutes. I think that Celine  Dead sold it out online in a matter of seconds in the early 2000s. just depends what part of the world and what decade you are in.
ABBA were a great pop band and Agnetha and Anni-Frid were nice to look at. Anni-Frid"s father was an SS officer during WWII. Don't ask me how I know this. 


hahahaha Vibrationbaby yes I am currently living in Mozambique, BUT PLANET KEPLER sounds interesting tho' I am glad you speak English coz I understand that and also a bit of Klingon but wow I am more interested in your life story really hugs


I also speak French but my Klingon is a bit rusty. Where did Klingons learn to speak English? Or for that matter why do they speak English on every planet that the Starship Enterprise has ever warped to?As for my life story well.... you really don't want to know.
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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

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The coolest thing CD Warehouse ever did was when Marillion came through town on the "Seasons End" tour.  They played a small club in Santa Clara called The Cabaret on a Thur night, then Fri at 11am Hogarth, Rothery and Trewavis played an acoustic set on this tiny stage in the store.  A few years ago the store changed focus from prog & metal to hip hop & rap for a short time then went out of business.  That's what they get for turning their backs on prog fans Evil Smile

CD Warehouse!  I frequented that from 89-91.  I remember that Marillion show (at the Caberet; didn't know about the other) as well, mostly because I was not yet 21 and could not attend!!Cry

Did you listen to Stone Trek at the time?  That's what got me in to prog.

Ya, I used to listen to Stone Trek every Sunday night until his show got pulled and he couldn't find a new radio home.  I'd pop a blank cassette in the deck and would be ready to roll.  After many years, I noticed he'd cycle through the same prog classics every few weeks but he still mixed it up with hard to find things and the occaissional live bootleg.  I remember he used to play this amazing Yes boot from 1973 after Tales but just before Wakeman left.  One night he played the super-rare B-side of the Los Endos single and I was lucky enough to have my blank tape ready.  I bet he was personally responsible for getting an absolute ton of people into prog...three cheers for Greg Stone!  Nowadays, youtube has replaced shows like his and you can find the most obscure prog easily...amazing how times have changed for us prog fans!

About 1 year after I saw Marillion at the Cabaret, Steve Hackett played there.  The highlight of the show for me was after the full band played their set, Steve came out alone with a classical guitar and sat on a chair stage center and played unaccompanied for about 20 minutes.  His acoustic album "Bay of Kings" always reminds me of that night.


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Hey Kati if you're from Mozambique then I'm from Planet Kepler 62. I actually saw ELP at the Saddledome in Calgary Alberta Canada. The promoter had to comp more than half of the tickets in order to make it look like there was an audience. This was '97 or '98 I believe. Shortly thereafter he had to cancel a Yes show because he was afraid that he would lose his shirt. Anybody like Terry Clark, Garth Brooks or KD Lang sell out the Saddledome in less than 20 minutes. I think that Celine  Dead sold it out online in a matter of seconds in the early 2000s. just depends what part of the world and what decade you are in.
ABBA were a great pop band and Agnetha and Anni-Frid were nice to look at. Anni-Frid"s father was an SS officer during WWII. Don't ask me how I know this. 


hahahaha Vibrationbaby yes I am currently living in Mozambique, BUT PLANET KEPLER sounds interesting tho' I am glad you speak English coz I understand that and also a bit of Klingon but wow I am more interested in your life story really hugs
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Hey Kati if you're from Mozambique then I'm from Planet Kepler 62. I actually saw ELP at the Saddledome in Calgary Alberta Canada. The promoter had to comp more than half of the tickets in order to make it look like there was an audience. This was '97 or '98 I believe. Shortly thereafter he had to cancel a Yes show because he was afraid that he would lose his shirt. Anybody like Terry Clark, Garth Brooks or KD Lang sell out the Saddledome in less than 20 minutes. I think that Celine  Dead sold it out online in a matter of seconds in the early 2000s. just depends what part of the world and what decade you are in.

ABBA were a great pop band and Agnetha and Anni-Frid were nice to look at. Anni-Frid"s father was an SS officer during WWII. Don't ask me how I know this. 


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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

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Quote Ya, there were also these great independently owned record shops that catered to prog.  Greg Stone either owned - or worked at - one in downtown Los Gatos called "The Galactic Zoo" (where I bought "Pawn Hearts").  In West San Jose you had "The Dedicated Record Collector".  Downtown near San Jose State University was "Underground Records" (where I bought all my King Crimson bootlegs).  And in Sunnyvale near my house was "Phonograph Records".  I rode my 10 speed down one early September Saturday in 1977 and told the guy behind the counter I'd seen some really cool album covers from some band called King Crimson, and asked if he could tell me anything about them.  He get's this evil smile and says, "I'll put something on so you can hear them for yourself"  He then dropped the needle on Fracture and changed my life Thumbs Up   


Wow! This is crazy!  In '94 I moved to San Jose and taught HS there in Campbell steps away from Los Gatos. I lived off Blossom Hill Rd. Sad to say but  by the time I moved there it was a little too late to catch The Galactic Zoo and most of those other stores. All I could do was sit there and listen to great stories from friends about the late 70's and how these record stores had the best Prog. By mid-90's the only stores left for me were Streetlight Records, Big Al's Record Barn, and Rasputin, all on Bascom Ave. Well, there was one other one, Rowes Rare Records which was ok. Maybe we crossed paths at some point! Even if it was the mid-90's when I got there! LOL

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We probably did cross paths!  I built up my prog CD collection in a big way in the mid 90's Wink
 
Streetlight was great in their early days when they were located in that house on Bascom by 280.  They had a guy there named "Stretch" who was a Hawkwind and prog maniac so they always had cool stuff...bought the first 2 IQ albums there.  When they expanded into that huge space down the street and opened up a sister store in Santa Cruz they dropped off on the prog focus.  Rasputin was great and had a massive inventory.  You could wander the aisles for days and not see everything.  Big Al's was a complete vinyl rip off...he priced everything like it was a super rare collectors item no matter how many he had.  I remember seeing 10+ vinyl ELP Works Vol 1 albums listed at $20+ for each one.  I believe Rowe's on Bascom actually merged with Big Al after he shut down the Santa Clara store.

The best prog store in the CD era was "CD Warehouse" in Sunnyvale.  They had a listening station with like 10 CD players/headphone setups...I used to spend hours listening to anything that looked remotely interesting.  They had a great prog section where I bought most of my Ange & Anekdoten albums...ya, they went deep into the Italian, French, Swedish, and German prog scenes.  They even occasionally had prog bootlegs, though they were pricey.  I found a '76 Trick of the Tail tour 2CD boot which was about $60...luckily when I brought it to the counter they let me listen to it first...unfortunately, the sound quality was awful so I had to pass.

The coolest thing CD Warehouse ever did was when Marillion came through town on the "Seasons End" tour.  They played a small club in Santa Clara called The Cabaret on a Thur night, then Fri at 11am Hogarth, Rothery and Trewavis played an acoustic set on this tiny stage in the store.  A few years ago the store changed focus from prog & metal to hip hop & rap for a short time then went out of business.  That's what they get for turning their backs on prog fans Evil Smile

CD Warehouse!  I frequented that from 89-91.  I remember that Marillion show (at the Caberet; didn't know about the other) as well, mostly because I was not yet 21 and could not attend!!Cry

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Originally posted by Rando Rando wrote:

Quote Ya, there were also these great independently owned record shops that catered to prog.  Greg Stone either owned - or worked at - one in downtown Los Gatos called "The Galactic Zoo" (where I bought "Pawn Hearts").  In West San Jose you had "The Dedicated Record Collector".  Downtown near San Jose State University was "Underground Records" (where I bought all my King Crimson bootlegs).  And in Sunnyvale near my house was "Phonograph Records".  I rode my 10 speed down one early September Saturday in 1977 and told the guy behind the counter I'd seen some really cool album covers from some band called King Crimson, and asked if he could tell me anything about them.  He get's this evil smile and says, "I'll put something on so you can hear them for yourself"  He then dropped the needle on Fracture and changed my life Thumbs Up   


Wow! This is crazy!  In '94 I moved to San Jose and taught HS there in Campbell steps away from Los Gatos. I lived off Blossom Hill Rd. Sad to say but  by the time I moved there it was a little too late to catch The Galactic Zoo and most of those other stores. All I could do was sit there and listen to great stories from friends about the late 70's and how these record stores had the best Prog. By mid-90's the only stores left for me were Streetlight Records, Big Al's Record Barn, and Rasputin, all on Bascom Ave. Well, there was one other one, Rowes Rare Records which was ok. Maybe we crossed paths at some point! Even if it was the mid-90's when I got there! LOL

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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

I doubt crimson and genesis had big concerts in the 70s like Tull, yes, elp etc. I don't like crimson and genesis from 1970-75 as much as Tull and yes in this era. I reckon gentle giant deserved bigger followings and van der graaf would have had a bigger following if they didn't break up between 1972 and 74. Not sure why elp became so big. They were pretty crap after 1973

Where was it you obtained your PhD in Progology exactly? I really do think you should send it back and ask for a refund, then change your name of course.
 
Genesis were playing stadiums from 1974 (Lamb) onwards. Crimson were also playing stadiums such as The Hollywood Sportatorium in Miami in 1974. GG weren't quite at that level but were reasonably sucessful as a touring band and did actually head line a stadium gig (albeit in Liverpool) given their minority appeal (whether they deserved that is immaterial).
Late to the party, and I didn't attend a Genesis show between 70-75 (too young), but I was at the Genesis concert at Ford Auditorium in Detroit in 1976 (Trick of the Tail, Bill Bruford drumming). A three thousand seater and It was sold out. I saw them again in 1977 (Winds and Wuthering) at the Masonic Temple in Detroit, this time sold to capacity of 5000. Both shows still rank in the top 20 or so concerts I've ever seen, and I've been to hundreds of concerts. Great light show.

Genesis was playing the same size venues those years in SF as you mentioned in Detroit.  By comparison, King Crimson in '74 and Yes/Gentle Giant in '76 played the 14,500 seat Cow Palace.  In the SF bay area, Genesis was the last of the major 70's prog bands to make the jump to the 10,000+ seat arenas.  Seeng Genesis at the tiny Winterland Ballroom in '77 was way more enjoyable than seeing them in the much bigger Oakland Arena the following tour.


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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

I doubt crimson and genesis had big concerts in the 70s like Tull, yes, elp etc. I don't like crimson and genesis from 1970-75 as much as Tull and yes in this era. I reckon gentle giant deserved bigger followings and van der graaf would have had a bigger following if they didn't break up between 1972 and 74. Not sure why elp became so big. They were pretty crap after 1973
Where was it you obtained your PhD in Progology exactly? I really do think you should send it back and ask for a refund, then change your name of course.
 
Genesis were playing stadiums from 1974 (Lamb) onwards. Crimson were also playing stadiums such as The Hollywood Sportatorium in Miami in 1974. GG weren't quite at that level but were reasonably sucessful as a touring band and did actually head line a stadium gig (albeit in Liverpool) given their minority appeal (whether they deserved that is immaterial).


Late to the party, and I didn't attend a Genesis show between 70-75 (too young), but I was at the Genesis concert at Ford Auditorium in Detroit in 1976 (Trick of the Tail, Bill Bruford drumming). A three thousand seater and It was sold out. I saw them again in 1977 (Winds and Wuthering) at the Masonic Temple in Detroit, this time sold to capacity of 5000. Both shows still rank in the top 20 or so concerts I've ever seen, and I've been to hundreds of concerts. Great light show.

Genesis was playing the same size venues those years in SF as you mentioned in Detroit.  By comparison, King Crimson in '74 and Yes/Gentle Giant in '76 played the 14,500 seat Cow Palace.  In the SF bay area, Genesis was the last of the major 70's prog bands to make the jump to the 10,000+ seat arenas.  Seeng Genesis at the tiny Winterland Ballroom in '77 was way more enjoyable than seeing them in the much bigger Oakland Arena the following tour.
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Not necessary the word prog, but the moozik genre certainly was, otherwise I cannot imagine why on earth Peter Gabriel would put on a red dress and a fox on his head to stand out like others, to the dismay of his band
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Even Abba had their proggy moments. Most music was prog related then
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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It's true, progressive rock was rock for a good while, there was no separation; it was modern rock music, period, you just had to be there to remember.   It's usually right about this time I like to remind A Passion Play was #1 on Billboard but no one ever believes me  Smile .
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Everything was known as progressive rock in the early seventies from Elton John to Genesis. Then disco and punk happened. I think just about the only artist back in the early seventies who wasn't considered prog was Elvis. I remember in Sam the record Man in Montreal he had rows and rows in his section. Unfortunately I saw genesis in 2007 at the big O in montreal and the few early songs they did play ( and butchered ) hardly anyone knew. In fact I overheard one kid saying that one of those songs ( can't remember which one ) must be their new song. Go figure. I'm just glad I grew up during those exciting years. I remember skipping school to wait at the record store when ELP's Love Beach came out.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

I doubt crimson and genesis had big concerts in the 70s like Tull, yes, elp etc. I don't like crimson and genesis from 1970-75 as much as Tull and yes in this era. I reckon gentle giant deserved bigger followings and van der graaf would have had a bigger following if they didn't break up between 1972 and 74. Not sure why elp became so big. They were pretty crap after 1973
Where was it you obtained your PhD in Progology exactly? I really do think you should send it back and ask for a refund, then change your name of course.
 
Genesis were playing stadiums from 1974 (Lamb) onwards. Crimson were also playing stadiums such as The Hollywood Sportatorium in Miami in 1974. GG weren't quite at that level but were reasonably sucessful as a touring band and did actually head line a stadium gig (albeit in Liverpool) given their minority appeal (whether they deserved that is immaterial).


Late to the party, and I didn't attend a Genesis show between 70-75 (too young), but I was at the Genesis concert at Ford Auditorium in Detroit in 1976 (Trick of the Tail, Bill Bruford drumming). A three thousand seater and It was sold out. I saw them again in 1977 (Winds and Wuthering) at the Masonic Temple in Detroit, this time sold to capacity of 5000. Both shows still rank in the top 20 or so concerts I've ever seen, and I've been to hundreds of concerts. Great light show.
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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

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Oh poor genesis snobs can't get their head out of their ass lol
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Oh poor genesis snobs can't get their head out of their ass lol
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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I wish graaf stuck together for the whole 70s. Reckon they would have been big. Same with camel if they came around 3 years earlier

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