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Posted: December 03 2013 at 19:56

Gerinski wrote:

Who's that laying on the floor, Derek or Ray?

Ah, that must be the infamous "Tiger in a Spotlight" LOL

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 19:48

This thread escalated quickly..

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 19:41

Dean wrote:

WAT!? You've rated their albums but don't own any!? You "love" Power & Glory but have only heard it a couple of times!?

richardh wrote:

ELP were a band for the moment BUT I do think if people can splurge 5 stars ratings all over Haken with gay abandon then my core understanding of what is inspirational and important music has gone missing.

This is what happens in the era of digital music, when listening to tons of music is so easy that it becomes gratuitous.

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 19:34

Who's that laying on the floor, Derek or Ray?

A fresh beer for the just arrived Giants

Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends… Ladies and Gentlemen, Emerson, Lake & Palmer is a 1974 live album by progressive rock band Emerson, Lake & Palmer, originally released as a three-disk vinyl album, but is now a double CD, in a gatefold cover, the inside of which used the letters “E”, “L” and “P” as retainers for the individual disks.

The album reached #4 on the Billboard album chart making it ELP’s highest charting album in the US.

from http://thehelplessdancer.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/

Now, after the fun, let me say that I have the outmost respect for GG

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 18:29

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Ah, yes... I seem to remember... were it not GG who co-headlined that little festival called Cal Jam with Deep Purple? with Kerry Minnear upside down in his spinning piano, Ray Shulman in his 6,000 $ persian carpet playing the custom double neck specially built for him by Zemaitis and John Weathers playing his custom made 2.5 ton stainless steel drum kit with sound synthesizer? not to mention that they had been requested by non other than Bob Moog to test-play in exclusive his prototypes for the new generation of Moog synths. And of course the tour they did with a full orchestra playing Minnear's Concerto No. 1, with trucks featuring the names of each band member on the roof, personal plane... and they released also a triple live LP right? yes yes, of course, how could I have forgotten, every hardcore prog fan knows they were Gentle Giant

I knew it was John Weathers drum solo I saw as he rang that bell with his teeth LOL

Edited by The.Crimson.King - December 03 2013 at 18:30

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 16:07

ELP were a band for the moment BUT I do think if people can splurge 5 stars ratings all over Haken with gay abandon then my core understanding of what is inspirational and important music has gone missing.

I should mention that Keith Emerson had massive respect for Gentle Giant and reckoned they created a new style of music. Can't get any better than that really for praise. Lets not fight chaps and remain friends please. Hug

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 15:25

Prog_Traveller wrote:

Based on responses from this thread I would say GG were more well known in the US than in Europe.

(...)

I am going mostly by reputation in prog circles. I stand by my original big five or big six comments. GG is in and ELP are out(unless you go purely by album sales which is silly).

Edited by Gerinski - December 03 2013 at 15:27

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 14:02

GG are my 2nd fave band behind Tull. They are the best 2 composers in prog

All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 13:38

The.Crimson.King wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

A well done honest review, thanks for contributing to the site.

Thank you for your kind words. I really, really, really wanted to rate it 5 stars because that's exactly what it is for me, a 5 star Crimson dream come true. I mean what are the odds that your favourite band would release a 24 disc box set focusing on your favourite 6 months out of their entire 35 year history?

Alas, I had to keep in mind an objective review and rating was the ultimate goal so I followed my conscience and went Star

I got the Lark's Tongue box set. If I were to buy the Red one as well, the divorce courts would beckon Unhappy

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 13:02

timothy leary wrote:

A well done honest review, thanks for contributing to the site.

Alas, I had to keep in mind an objective review and rating was the ultimate goal so I followed my conscience and went Star

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 12:11

A well done honest review, thanks for contributing to the site.

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 12:01

The.Crimson.King wrote:

ghost_of_morphy wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Dean wrote:

Xonty wrote:

I have rated their albums (no reviews yet though), but I don't own any of them. And in my opinion, I don't think they're as good as King Crimson or ELP, but I agree that they should get more notice Smile

Still a very good and important progressive band - plus I love The Power And The Glory. I've only heard it a couple of times, but I know that I'll probably get much more out of it after a few more (as with most albums in the Eclectic Prog section Smile

), so I reckon that I'll be buying that one pretty soon Tongue

<font size="7" color="#ff0000">WAT!? You've rated their albums but don't own any!? You "love" Power & Glory but have only heard it a couple of times!?

Make a mockery of the PA why don'tcha. Disapprove

He rated the recently released 22 cd King Crimson Road to Red with 5 stars so he must know what he is talking about. Gee whiz.

LOL. Who has even had time to listen to that all the way through?

I have

http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=43721

That you have, my friend. Incredibly well done!!! Also. Very entertaining thread. Wouldn't you say?
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Posted: December 03 2013 at 11:09

ghost_of_morphy wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Dean wrote:

), so I reckon that I'll be buying that one pretty soon Tongue

WAT!? You've rated their albums but don't own any!? You "love" Power & Glory but have only heard it a couple of times!?

Make a mockery of the PA why don'tcha. Disapprove

He rated the recently released 22 cd King Crimson Road to Red with 5 stars so he must know what he is talking about. Gee whiz.

LOL. Who has even had time to listen to that all the way through?

I have

http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=43721

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 10:31

lazland wrote:

Prog_Traveller wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Trust me, Dean we would miss, you not so much.

Ask me if I care.

Why don't you grow up a bit, and maybe withdraw this post?

Fight fight fight. Tongue

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 08:21

The "big five" or "first tier" is purely a popularity thing, not counting just within tight-knit prog circles. So GG are most certainly not a part of either list.

Edited by irrelevant - December 03 2013 at 08:22

New album!
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 08:14

Prog_Traveller wrote:

Typically GG do fit in as part of the big five(I'm going by other prog sites where I've read this). Typically the big five is:

YES
GENESIS
King Crimson
Gentle Giant
ELP

PF and JT are not universally recognized as prog or big five but I suppose you could toss either one in for a big six.

ELP's popularity in prog circles has decreased a lot in the past ten to fifteen years in prog circles. GG are far more respected than ELP these days. So that puts GG in a big five even big four(if there was such a thing). I'm going by my experience talking to hardcore fans and prog internet circles so yeah I know what I'm talking about. Ultimately it's an opinion but if you go by consensus then GG are a lock for a big five or big six position.

Please reference which prog sites you are referring to, please. No one in the history of inane prog banter has ever listed Gentle Giant in the big five. Until now, of course.

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 08:07

Dean wrote:

Gentle Giant were not even a third tier band globally, even in the Nursery Cryme/Foxtrot era Genesis out-sold them on album and on tour by a considerable margin. At the height of Gentle Giant's US popularity in 1975 they were opening for bands like Golden Earring, Peter Frampton and Foghat while Genesis were headlining.

And the shows they did with Golden Earring, they blew them out of town! Here, drive off! But the folks that came to see the show and bought tickets were only interested in Radar Love! Saddest thing ever! Talk about disrespect!

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 07:12

The Mystical wrote:

Prog_Traveller wrote:

So get off your lazy butts you young whipper snappers and buy some Gentle Giant!!!! Start with Free Hand or Octopus. You won't be disappointed!!!

This whippersnapper is more into canterbury.

And this one was only 12% satisfied with GG.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 03 2013 at 07:12

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 01:18

Prog_Traveller wrote:

So get off your lazy butts you young whipper snappers and buy some Gentle Giant!!!! Start with Free Hand or Octopus. You won't be disappointed!!!

This whippersnapper is more into canterbury.

I am currently digging:

Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz!

Please drop me a message with album suggestions.

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Posted: December 03 2013 at 01:03

Prog_Traveller wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Trust me, Dean we would miss, you not so much.

Ask me if I care.

Why don't you grow up a bit, and maybe withdraw this post?

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