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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2014 at 15:33
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by Matthew _Gill Matthew _Gill wrote:

Erm, guys sorry for this but I think we need to go even darker into the twisted mind that is Genesis....


"I can’t see you mama
But I can hardly wait
Ooh to touch and to feel you mama
Oh I just can’t keep away
In the heat and the steam of the city
Oh it’s got me running and I just can’t brake
So say you’ll help me mama
Cos it’s getting so hard..."

Trust me the rabbit hole goes even deeper....


I was convinced for the longest time that Mama was sung from the perspective of a fetus about to get aborted.  Really creeped me out for a while.

I thought that too, and so did the manager apparently. Found this quote on Wikipedia... Tongue

Our manager, when he first heard it, thought it was about abortion, the kind of feeling of the, you know, the foetus, if you like, saying to the Mother 'Please give me a chance, can't you feel my heart, don't take away my last chance', all those lyrics are in the song but in fact what it is, is just about a young teenager that's got a mother fixation with a prostitute that he's just happened to have met in passing and he has such a strong feeling for her and doesn't understand why she isn't interested in him. It's a bit like [British actor] David Niven in The Moon's a Balloon, I don't know if you've read that book, he's very young, just come out of cadet college or whatever, and he meets this quite, you know, 45-year-old prostitute who he has a fantastic time with. He's special to her but it definitely can't go any further than what it is and that's really what the song is about, with sinister overtones.

—Phil Collins

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2014 at 16:14
I think Phil has massive issues. 

I'm mean Genesis' most wholesome song Follow you Follow me.

Pretty dark stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2014 at 17:20
I say, Keep it Dark.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2014 at 19:15
And/or in the dark.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2014 at 02:47
'Mama' is a dark, venomous tune by this version of Genesis. Quite Prog too. This piece, and the Home By The Sea extravaganza, saves this album from the proverbial 80's disease. I find the lyrical content of 80's Genesis more sinister than the 70's stuff.
Genesis has to be one of the MOST successful groups from the ashes of Prog.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2014 at 03:22
A lot of people said Genesis lost their heart and artist quality when Gabriel and Hackett left but tbh in the 80's Hackett and Gabriel were far more pop orientated. I think if Hackett and Gabriel had been in Genesis circa 78 onwards they would have been influenced by punk to an extent and had an harder edge.



Edited by Matthew _Gill - June 05 2014 at 11:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2014 at 05:07
I think that if Gabriel stayed on, Genesis may have folded by '78...... .....(c**t of a machine for typing.....iPod).....

Edited by Tom Ozric - June 04 2014 at 05:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2014 at 15:11
"Come with me, I need you,
I fear the dark and I live all alone.
I'll give you wine and food too
And something special after if you like."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2014 at 03:55
Bateman goes over to his CDs and scans his vast collection. 
He takes one out and examines it.

BATEMAN 
Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis 
fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before 
that I really didn't understand any of their work. It was too 
artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' 
presence became more apparent. He puts aside the CD and takes out 
another one.

BATEMAN 
I think "Invisible Touch" is the group's undisputed
masterpiece.

He puts on the song and gestures for them to follow him 
into the bedroom.

BATEMAN 
It's an epic meditation on intangibility, at the 
same time it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding 
three albums. Christie, take off the robe.

Bateman puts out a lace teddy. He motions to Christie to 
put it on.

BATEMAN 
Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, 
Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance 
of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress.

Bateman starts to undress.

BATEMAN 
In terms of lyrical craftsmanship and sheer 
songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. 
Sabrina, why don't you dance a little?

Sabrina dances awkwardly. Christie sits on the bed.

BATEMAN 
Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion." In this 
song, Phil Collins addresses the problem of abusive political 
authority.

Bateman knots a silk scarf around Christie's neck - rather 
menacingly - then helps her into some suede gloves. 

BATEMAN 
"In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s about 
monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. 
Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything 
I've heard in rock.

He turns on the video camera. 

BATEMAN 
Christie, get down on your knees, so Sabrina can see your 
a****le.

Bateman looks through the viewfinder.

BATEMAN 
Phill Collins solo efforts seem to be more commercial and 
therefore more satisfying in a narrower way, especially 
songs like "In the Air Tonight" and "Against 
All Odds." Sabrina, don't just stare at it. Eat it. 

He walks over to the sound system in his bedroom and slides in 
the CD.

BATEMAN 
But I also think that Phill Collins works better 
within the confines of the group than as a solo artist-and 
I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio," a great, 
great song, a personal favorite.

SEX MONTAGE CUT TO "Sussudio." We see this in WIDE SHOT, or 
through the LENS OF THE VIDEO CAMERA.

CUT TO: 

Bateman asleep in his bed with Christie and Sabrina 
on either side of him. Sabrina accidentally touches his 
wrist. Bateman's eyes open.

BATEMAN 
Don't touch the Rolex.

Bateman gets up from his bed and goes over to his armoire.

He opens the drawer in which are a nail gun, a coat hanger, 
a rusty butter knife and a half-smoked cigar. He turns 
around to see Christie and Sabrina both starting to get up 
and get dressed. He takes the coat hanger.

BATEMAN 
We're not through yet...

CUT TO:

Bateman ushering them out the door impatiently. They 
are both sobbing, badly bruised and bleeding. Bateman has a 
deep scratch on his hand and one on his shoulder. In the 
b.g. Phil Collins' "In the Air Tonight" is playing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2014 at 04:40
^ That's just dumb
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2014 at 06:25

The Roots - When The People Cheer Lyrics

"I’m down to 95 dollars, that’s the extent of my riches
Out of 99 problems, 98 of ‘em is bitches
Out here hollering, what’s ironic is
I’ve honestly been tryna do what’s right
But some jawn legs in the air tonight like Phil Collins
I’m a sex-addicted introvert, sucker for a pencil skirt
Looking for a shorty coming from work that I can pervert"



The Battle of Epping Forrest.

"They called me the Reverend when I entered the Church unstained;
my employers have changed but the name has remained.
It all began when I went on a tour,
hoping to find some furniture.
I followed a sign - it said "Beautiful Chest".
It led to a lady who showed me her best.
She was taken by surprise when I quickly closed my eyes.
So she rang the bell, and quick as hell
Bob the Nob came out on his job
to see what the trouble was.
"Louise, is the Reverend hard to please?"
"You're telling me!"
"Perhaps, sir, if it's not too late.
we could interest you in our old-fashioned Staffordshire plate?"
"Oh no, not me, I'm a man of repute."
But the Devil caught hold of my soul and a voice called out "Shoot!"




Edited by Matthew _Gill - June 05 2014 at 11:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2014 at 06:35
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ That's just dumb

What really bakes my cake is that all the world's top celebs are queuing up to bed Lily Collins. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 06 2014 at 00:09
Most men want to bed a female celebrity.........this means nothing.....and most celebs want to bed celebs anyways......

Edited by Tom Ozric - June 06 2014 at 19:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2014 at 23:15
I think if anyone needs to get laid...it's probably  Matthew.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2014 at 14:20
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I think if anyone needs to get laid...it's probably  Matthew.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 10:15
All rock and roll is about sex - quote unquote. This is not breaking news. This thread proves nothing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2014 at 23:53

The weather was hard, but so were the men!

His horses were edgy, sensing trouble ahead,
 But the trouble didn't start till the men were in bed

Um... yeah :D Both from Ballad of Big.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2014 at 03:11
Hey OP, what does "chocolate surprise" mean? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2014 at 03:49
Get on my stallion and we'll ride (oops, wrong band.......)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2014 at 13:10
I'd argue that every song Peter ever wrote was about sex, even Biko (the politics of power, oppression, punishment.....relationships, sex!).  The post-Gabriel Genesis had the musical chops but lacked that visionary lyricist, so the boys just did their best Peter impressions and carried on with an ear to music, not lyrics.  I just don't think Phil, Tony and Mike had it in them to write a whole album of double entedre and deep meaning.  Music, sure; lyrics, no.
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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