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JD
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18428 |
Topic: ProgArchives censorship Posted: July 23 2014 at 16:16 |
I'm starting to see what I consider to be excessive censorship on this site. It started with the posting. A** instead of Ass and that sort of thing. Some of it may have been self censorship to be sure. I've censored myself out of respect for other site visitors. But now I see this sort of thing happening. These are different images than what they were a few years ago.
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5259 And this http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14576 My feeling is that someone (site administrator??) is going too far with this sort of thing and damaging the artistic integrity of what was done by the bands. We're not a bunch of 12 year old's here and even if 12 year old's visit the site what are they being protected from, cleavage, bare butts?? Give me a break!! In Canada we value freedom of expression and I thought the US liked to wave the oh so holy "Free Speech" flag as well. I really would like to hear from as many members as possible on this so I can understand if there is a disconnect between what we all expect as members and what we are 'given' by the controlling parties or if I'm just out in left field all be myself. |
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chopper
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 19965 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 16:22 |
This is censorship by Google and has been going on for a while. There are plenty of threads about it if you look around.
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The Doctor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 16:26 |
Google is using economic pressure to force the site into censoring images. To some degree, this is a family site so pornographic images and or excessive nude images should be frowned upon and always have been here. But this is a music site and to force PA to censor album art is seriously problematic for me. But the villain is Google, not PA.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Sheavy
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 28 2010 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 2866 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 16:29 |
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Xonty
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 23 2013 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 1759 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 16:50 |
It is a little bit overly censored, but not really fussed to be honest...
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uduwudu
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 18:22 |
PA may be overly censored, possibly not the fault of PA but as posts notes, Google. Corporate draconian control freakery. It may be symptomatic of someone trying to control your thoughts and manipulating current culture.
Good concept album stuff. What next? Ban the Guitar? Surely not! Someone.. assuming control. There stands the clock at 12 minutes past 9. |
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Progosopher
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 12 2009 Location: Coolwood Status: Offline Points: 6402 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 19:07 |
I have been assuming the censorship I have seen on this was self-inflicted out of a general sense of decency. I myself was censored for using the word "w**ker" on a discussion last year relating to one Howard Stern, a word I would assume is less offensive than "retard." Perhaps we will see on this forum.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Man With Hat
Collaborator Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166178 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 20:24 |
This sums up my feelings as well. |
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Luna
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 20:37 |
It's stupid and I'm stupid for staying here.
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 17995 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 20:42 |
help im being opressed
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addictedtoprog
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 16 2014 Location: india Status: Offline Points: 1422 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 21:40 |
But yes...we can live with it...
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HackettFan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7946 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 21:49 |
I reserve the right to change my mind, but I've had no direct experience of any censorship problem.
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siLLy puPPy
Special Collaborator PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Online Points: 14823 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 21:59 |
Life's a bitch. You're born. You hump a leg or two. You die.
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thellama73
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 22:04 |
I don't mind the asterixed swears in the forum, but the pixelated album art is ridiculous and absurd for a site about music. Absurd, I say!
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Dellinger
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 22:13 |
Yeah, I had notice this about some people avatar's. But actually I notice when it got to the extreme of censoring a cow's udders and some women in bikini. Just ridiculous.
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ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 22:22 |
'Retards' in all likelihood can create more retards (and w*nkers) but w*nkers, by definition cannot. Regardless of the perceived offensiveness of the respective terms, it's the former that carry the greater threat. Even hell has a door policy. But nah, censoring your posts has clearly f.u.c.k. all to do with Google |
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Wanorak
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4574 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 23:05 |
I hadn't noticed. I usually censor myself if I go on a rant.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Olape
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 28 2013 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 2056 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 23:35 |
I agree!
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Kazza3
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 29 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 557 |
Posted: July 23 2014 at 23:38 |
Yeah, the censoring of album art is all Google:
They're banning 'sexually explicit content' on pages which feature their advertising. It is, of course, absurd, but hardly PA's fault. Clearly Michelangelo's David and Renaissance paintings and the like should be removed from public viewing so that children don't have to endure the horror of gazing upon the human form.
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 26471 |
Posted: July 24 2014 at 01:43 |
My main complaint is the moving of threads so you end up being thrown all around the site. Do I want to end up on the fun forum? Do I look like someone who has fun?
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