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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 03:39
With certain types of chicks, I'd definitely go for some bouncy and melodic fusion type of thang. I'm thinking Demon Fuzz' Afreaka! or Cymande. 
With other dudettes, I'd reach for something by Pure Reason Revolution, probably Amor Vincit Omnia.

Guys? depends again. Oddly enough, I've been the most successful in turning punks and metal heads into pork (at least a wee bit anyway) with KCs Red. I guess it's the riffing. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 03:48
Never. Impossible. Though many of my friends listen to prog without knowing this is prog. I tried to tell them, but they don't want to know. Prog is a scary name in France. Evil Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 05:42
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Camel - Mirage and something good to smoke
What, a Marlboro ??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 07:28
I normally play a nice short song to them, what prog fans call "Fillers"; songs that people can relate to, or some of the popular ones from the old times, like "Living in the Past", or "From The Beginning". That gets them interested and sometimes willing to liosten to the whole album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 07:45
I never tried much and whenever I did, I always failed so it's very long ago that I stopped trying. The only persons I have had any real interest in getting them introduced to Prog have been my girlfriends because they had to share my life more closely, also when we were alone at home, so I considered it important that they understand my hobbies a bit better. But I failed with all of them, I would even dare to say that Prog may have contributed to my repeated failures at keeping stable relationships (not the only reason for sure).

I guess that once you are grown up it's difficult to come to like music which is quite different from what you liked as a kid or teenager, that's when your basic musical tastes develop. But you can certainly introduce Prog to young kids and teenagers, the children of some of my friends (I don't have any of my own) can appreciate some Prog due to the early exposure from hearing their father's albums at home, even if none of them have really developed into what we can call a Prog fan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 07:54
Each time I tried to introduce someone to prog I've failed, the reason being that some people tend to stay away from things which are "imposed" onto them. It feels better when you discover music on your own, because you're not influenced by other people's opinions and you don't feel "forced" to listen to something. And since I don't like being introduced to other types of music (but also movies, sports, games, etc.) as well, I just stopped doing that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 07:59
Yes, it should never be imposed.  My aversion to Rush is a result of that as a 15 year old.  I tried to fight back by telling my mates that Rush lifted parts of the middle instrumental section of 'Living in the Heart of the Beast' by Henry Cow for 2112 (recorded in 1975 before Rush fans start jumping up and down).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 08:03
Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Camel - Mirage and something good to smoke
What, a Marlboro ??
Trout

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 09:10
I tend not to bother thse days, but in the past juxtaposing Radiohead, Muse, Elbow et al alongside some Porcupine Tree, Genesis & Floyd in an ITunes playlist used to get a fairly positive response.

I wouldn't refer to te prog stuff as 'prog rock' It seems to be an automatic turn off label.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 09:24
i only talk about prog music when it's the right time to do so. i'm mainly speaking of this while at the school i am going to when music tastes and history, etc. etc. are being discussed on. I feel like i'm the most "weird" of this bunch because, well, here i am on this site talking about PROG, which no one at my school even knows of....exactly. HOWEVER, just recently i found one of the faculty in the school that found me wearing the Yes t-shirt i got from the concert i went to back in July and told me they're one of his favorite bands ever. THANK GOD I'M NOT ALONE IN THIS SCHOOL ANYMORE!!!!! well, then there's King Crimson and early Genesis and what not (f**k!!) *grunts*, one of these days....Disapprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 09:53
for the older folks, even those that enjoy some yes and Kansas (like my dad) it is difficult to introduce them to anything else. By that age they have mostly decided on what kind of music they like and won't stray too far out of that vein. I have had a bit of success with my dad though. He seems to dig Red and In the Court now, even a bit of beardfish. But then again I owe my musical taste to my parents. :)

For the younguns, most of of prog is too far removed from what they have been told to like. Even those who don't rely on the charts are too concerned with the indie hits of this year to open an ear to a good song from 10 (let alone 40) years ago. Not much luck on this front, I've only been able to get my bro and gf into the Dear Hunter and that's about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 09:56
I went to the school last year while singing Close To The Edge. My friend asked me "What are you singing ?" and I replied "Close To The Edge by Yes. Awesome progressive rock !" "What is progressive rock ?" And so, I explain the style and make him discover Yes, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Pink Floyd and Genesis. It was a good shock for him. Yesterday, he bought the Live At Bicentennial of Gentle Giant. He became a prog addict like me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 10:28
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I normally play a nice short song to them, what prog fans call "Fillers"; songs that people can relate to, or some of the popular ones from the old times, like "Living in the Past", or "From The Beginning". That gets them interested and sometimes willing to liosten to the whole album.

Isn't this how they get people hooked on unlicensed pharmaceuticals? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 11:19
I introduced progressive rock quite a while ago to my best friend of almost 25 years. He finds my Italian prog especiallly appealing and likes Le Orme and Banco very much. It has to be real prog to satisfy him, no Prog related will do it for him.
               I basically told him a bit about it, and then we would listen to it together, and I mean really listen, without dialogue. We have done this over and over for many years.
                     He is a bit of a special case, as he did not grow up with any popular culture-no television in the home, and had not any exposure to any rock music of any sort before I met him. His musical tastes were towards classical music and traditional Celtic.
                  Some of my prog he finds "bizarre" and unaccessible, like Terje Rypdal or some Nektar.
                I am now a Facilitator, and with my first class, brought some prog in at the last session. (Wallenstein's No More Love) One student grew up on 70s prog, but doesn't listen anymore. He had never heard of Wallenstein. Another younger student asked me if Rush were prog, and I said yes.
                     My fellow co-facilitator found the Wallenstein interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 11:25
^Interesting post PD. Thanks for sharing that. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 11:32
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

^Interesting post PD. Thanks for sharing that. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 11:50
i like to drop the craziest thing on hand on them totally unsuspecting....

the other day, after learning our town planner was a guitarist of some kind (my initial guess is jimmy buffet superfan, i still don't really know), i gave him Magma Live in London 1974, with no info at all, just to see his reaction.  it seemed to run as follows: confusion, persistence, acceptance, awe, but no idea if he like it or not

i like people to come on things unaware...like i would want to experience them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 12:28
I don't. I mostly talk about it and they may ask me to play some songs, but i won't say to them "listen to this or that". I mostly talk about Genesis though, and most of them have liked it when I've shown them some songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 12:45
The sole person I've ever introduced some music to is one of my little sisters: I've given her a CD-R of the Cardiacs (a compilation of the mp3 availables on their website) and a compilation of Uz Jsme Doma.
Then, when she asked me for some music to listen at work, I've provided her the links to the websites of bands close to the progressive music genre.

But, otherwise, I don't even try to talk of music - even with musicians: jazz musicians or pop musicians, avant-garde musicians or punk musicians... All of them stick to what they already know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 12:55
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