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 ole-the-first wrote:
^Can't agree with the statement about 'mess'. Musically it's probably the most cohesive Queen work, both conceptually and music-wise.
A Night at the Opera is virtually nothing but repetition of what's already been said. Technically polished, but lacks originality.
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Interesting point. I think ANATO had tracks like The Prophet Song, Death on two legs and Bohemian Rhapsody that were just superior (IMHO).
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Posted: April 08 2015 at 22:47 |
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I love Queen II
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Zep all the way for me
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PG for me.
You, I think The White Album vs. Physical Graffiti would have made a more interesting poll, considering that both involved a "Let's throw everything and the kitchen sink against the wall and see what happens" approach.
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Nope. Please Please Me is better. White Album contains a few Rock songs.
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Graffiti is my favorite Zeppelin album and I don't really like Queen.
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Physical Graffiti. Even though I only like the first disc
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Queen II. Is there any album more over-rated than Physical Graffiti? Especially of late. It's basically a collection of outtakes, songs that were rejected for previous albums. Nor do these songs sit comfortably side-by-side with each other. The best is the new material recorded for that album, especially Custard Pie, The Wanton Song, Trampled Under Foot, and of course the great Kashmir. Those tracks are undeniably great, up there with anything Led Zep ever recorded. Furthermore, those tracks push Led Zep in a new direction. Too bad then that it's surrounded by rejects. There's probably a great single disc lurking in there, if you cut out all the filler and inferior songs that should've been B-sides.
How anyone can think it approaches IV, II, I, III or even Houses of the Holy, I've never understood...
"Led Zeppelin IV" outtakes and rejects: Down by the Seaside, Night Flight, Boogie with Stu --- verdict: not one of these songs can hold a candle to any single song on IV "Led Zeppelin III" outtakes and rejects: Bron-Yr-Aur --- verdict: a nice short acoustic instrumental "Houses of the Holy" outtakes and rejects: The Rover, Black Country Woman, Houses of the Holy --- verdict: only the track Houses of the Holy is up to the usual Led Zep standards That's 7 old songs, only one of which is up to par, paired with 8 new songs (including the dreadful In My Time of Dying, which further bogs down the album).
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Sometimes individual songs don't get put on an album because they don't fit in with the general characteristics of the rest of the recordings or with what the band wants to release. This does not mean they are bad songs.
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Now you're looking for attention. I mean, why would you want to compare the two?
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^Can't agree with the statement about 'mess'. Musically it's probably the most cohesive Queen work, both conceptually and music-wise.
A Night at the Opera is virtually nothing but repetition of what's already been said. Technically polished, but lacks originality.
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I like Queen 2 but don't quite understand why it is so popular on prog sites - a bit of a mess at times with a few classics thrown in such as White Queen (As it began) Thought the next 2 albums were a big improvement especially ANATO.
Zep by some way - great album and though there is the odd duffer (take a bow Boogie with Stu) a diverse album with the band at or very near its peak.
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KingCrInuYasha
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PG for me.
You, I think The White Album vs. Physical Graffiti would have made a more interesting poll, considering that both involved a "Let's throw everything and the kitchen sink against the wall and see what happens" approach.
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I drifted away from Led Zepp after III and was just getting into the early Queen albums. I liked Mercury's vocal style and May's guitar style. Queen II got my vote.
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Both great albums, but Queen II is quite more progressive than PG, even though it has great music.
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jude111 wrote:
Queen II. Is there any album more over-rated than Physical Graffiti? Especially of late. It's basically a collection of outtakes, songs that were rejected for previous albums. Nor do these songs sit comfortably side-by-side with each other. The best is the new material recorded for that album, especially Custard Pie, The Wanton Song, Trampled Under Foot, and of course the great Kashmir. Those tracks are undeniably great, up there with anything Led Zep ever recorded. Furthermore, those tracks push Led Zep in a new direction. Too bad then that it's surrounded by rejects. There's probably a great single disc lurking in there, if you cut out all the filler and inferior songs that should've been B-sides.
How anyone can think it approaches IV, II, I, III or even Houses of the Holy, I've never understood...
"Led Zeppelin IV" outtakes and rejects: Down by the Seaside, Night Flight, Boogie with Stu --- verdict: not one of these songs can hold a candle to any single song on IV "Led Zeppelin III" outtakes and rejects: Bron-Yr-Aur --- verdict: a nice short acoustic instrumental "Houses of the Holy" outtakes and rejects: The Rover, Black Country Woman, Houses of the Holy --- verdict: only the track Houses of the Holy is up to the usual Led Zep standards That's 7 old songs, only one of which is up to par, paired with 8 new songs (including the dreadful In My Time of Dying, which further bogs down the album).
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I could not agree more.
Sheer Heart attack is my favourite Queen album by a hair over Queen II, but both show the band at their hard rock best.
Physical Graffiti cannot hold a candle to LZ III or IV. For me, only Custard Pie and the amazing Kashmir are truly great; it would have been better with all the filler and reject material stripped out and released as a single album.
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Black side of the Queen II is absolutely fantastic written by Mercury but vote goes to LZ!
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Posted: April 08 2015 at 01:43 |
jude111 wrote:
Queen II. Is there any album more over-rated than Physical Graffiti? Especially of late. It's basically a collection of outtakes, songs that were rejected for previous albums. Nor do these songs sit comfortably side-by-side with each other. The best is the new material recorded for that album, especially Custard Pie, The Wanton Song, Trampled Under Foot, and of course the great Kashmir. Those tracks are undeniably great, up there with anything Led Zep ever recorded. Furthermore, those tracks push Led Zep in a new direction. Too bad then that it's surrounded by rejects. There's probably a great single disc lurking in there, if you cut out all the filler and inferior songs that should've been B-sides.
How anyone can think it approaches IV, II, I, III or even Houses of the Holy, I've never understood...
"Led Zeppelin IV" outtakes and rejects: Down by the Seaside, Night Flight, Boogie with Stu --- verdict: not one of these songs can hold a candle to any single song on IV "Led Zeppelin III" outtakes and rejects: Bron-Yr-Aur --- verdict: a nice short acoustic instrumental "Houses of the Holy" outtakes and rejects: The Rover, Black Country Woman, Houses of the Holy --- verdict: only the track Houses of the Holy is up to the usual Led Zep standards That's 7 old songs, only one of which is up to par, paired with 8 new songs (including the dreadful In My Time of Dying, which further bogs down the album).
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Interesting dissemination I've never been a great Led Zep fan ( in truth not a great hard rock fan) but this is the only album I really care about from them apart from In Through The Out Door Doubles are always problematic to me and they always have 'filler' ( inc Lamb) so its really the high points that matter for me and Led Zep best moments are on PG imo. Queen II ? I've just ordered the deluxe edition as it seems the Queen album to have . I do like The Flash Gordon soundtrack ( keyboards!) but that is not a proper album.
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How lopsided for Zep does it have to get before this farce is completed?
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Posted: April 07 2015 at 20:30 |
Please…. Graffitti By a Musical Mile
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jude111
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Posted: April 07 2015 at 19:37 |
Queen II. Is there any album more over-rated than Physical Graffiti? Especially of late. It's basically a collection of outtakes, songs that were rejected for previous albums. Nor do these songs sit comfortably side-by-side with each other. The best is the new material recorded for that album, especially Custard Pie, The Wanton Song, Trampled Under Foot, and of course the great Kashmir. Those tracks are undeniably great, up there with anything Led Zep ever recorded. Furthermore, those tracks push Led Zep in a new direction. Too bad then that it's surrounded by rejects. There's probably a great single disc lurking in there, if you cut out all the filler and inferior songs that should've been B-sides.
How anyone can think it approaches IV, II, I, III or even Houses of the Holy, I've never understood...
"Led Zeppelin IV" outtakes and rejects: Down by the Seaside, Night Flight, Boogie with Stu --- verdict: not one of these songs can hold a candle to any single song on IV "Led Zeppelin III" outtakes and rejects: Bron-Yr-Aur --- verdict: a nice short acoustic instrumental "Houses of the Holy" outtakes and rejects: The Rover, Black Country Woman, Houses of the Holy --- verdict: only the track Houses of the Holy is up to the usual Led Zep standards That's 7 old songs, only one of which is up to par, paired with 8 new songs (including the dreadful In My Time of Dying, which further bogs down the album).
Edited by jude111 - April 07 2015 at 22:19
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Two of my favorite albums from both these bands, but I have to join the pack and pay allegiance to the mighty Led Zeppelin.
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Posted: April 07 2015 at 18:31 |
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