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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2011 at 02:55
LOL about Harmonium.ru and Snow Dog! Now I know how you came to over 17000 or 22000 posts, respectively!
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Originally posted by Gnomonaut Gnomonaut wrote:

The other part of my question that I guess wasn't really addressed was this: What elements do these bands use to convey their concept, and what are some examples that do this well? 

I am not sure, what you mean. Do you mean, which musical techniques are used?
I think, there is always a good starting point to listen, how classical composers did it, like e.g.
Stravinsky - Le sacre du printemps
Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition
and the already mentioned Prokofiev: Peter and the Wolf
just to hear how the composers create certain atmospheres and connect certain instruments to actors/animals.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2011 at 05:57
Originally posted by Gnomonaut Gnomonaut wrote:

Thanks for commenting, Al. I checked your stuff out and thought it sounded great. Not as riff-centered and edgy as ours, but it definitely takes the listener to a great place.

 
My pleasure.  This thread is great for recommendations, but there's precious little feedback (which I, and you too I guess, really need), so many thanks for your comments!
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Ralf Nowy - 1973 - Lucifer’s Dream
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:01
no brainer there...

Bo Hansson - Lord of the Rings... want to know what it feels like to have a black rider chasing you.. put the album on. Evocative and moody....best instrumental prog album bar none..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:11
^ Quite a claim.   You may be right.
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Camel - Snow Goose
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells, Hergest Ridge, Ommadawn, Incantations
David Arkenstone - In the Wake of the Wind
Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth, The Six Wives of Henry VIII, etc.
Uzva - Tammikuinen Tammela
Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior
 
Almost anything by Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre, Vangelis
Almost anything by Philip Glass
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 06:29
Eskimo by The Residents (has vocals, no comprehensible lyrics as far as I can tell)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 13:22
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Uzva - Tammikuinen Tammela

I am very fond of that record, but it never occurred to me it was a concept album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 13:26
Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Uzva - Tammikuinen Tammela

I am very fond of that record, but it never occurred to me it was a concept album.



It's six movements of 1 piece. How is it not a concept-album? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 13:32
To add a few more:

October Equus - Permafrost (it's about to the ill-fated voyage of Lord Franklin in search of the North West Passage. Ships got frozen in, everybody died.)

Camembert - Schnorgl Attahk (the invasion of Earth by small basterdly electrical jelly beings from space, including an erotic interlude with a camel)

The Flying Luttenbachers - Cataclysm (one of a whole cycle of albums concerning to the collapse of civilisation, the destruction of the Earth and subsequent equally apocalyptic events.  This one relates to the confrontation between two monstrous alien entities, The Iridescent Behemoth and The Void)

All top fun!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 14:08
And let's not forget:

Jade Warrior - Kites (and arguably some of the others, but here the track titles alone seem to tell a story)

Guapo - History of the Visitation (based on Boris and Arkady Strugatsky's novel Roadside Picnic, which also inspired the Tarkovsky film Stalker)

Jukka Gustavson - Yksin yhdessä...jaloa ylpeyttä yletän...ylevää nöyryyttä nousen (full on religious concept album made after he became a Jehovah's Witness.  But surprisingly it's bloody great)




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 14:15
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Uzva - Tammikuinen Tammela

I am very fond of that record, but it never occurred to me it was a concept album.



It's six movements of 1 piece. How is it not a concept-album? Wink

I reckon "movements" is going a bit far. It's six tracks called Introduction and Parts 1 to 5, does that make it a concept album, or just an album where they couldn't be arsed to think of titles for the tracks? Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 14:35
That's a point. But sometimes bands come up with concept albums, and I find it very, very hard to recognize a story or concept at all. (Marbles by Marillion) springs to mind.

I think what Heikki Puska did, was trying to create a modern classical album. Maybe he's telling us something through his music like Handel or Smetana or  Grieg did, or maybe it's just lazy songtitles.
It reminds me of Mike Oldfield, though. And his first four were considered conceptalbums...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 14:38
I honestly forgot:

Ozric Tentacles - The Yum Yum Tree
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 15:03
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

That's a point. But sometimes bands come up with concept albums, and I find it very, very hard to recognize a story or concept at all. (Marbles by Marillion) springs to mind.

I think what Heikki Puska did, was trying to create a modern classical album. Maybe he's telling us something through his music like Handel or Smetana or  Grieg did, or maybe it's just lazy songtitles.
It reminds me of Mike Oldfield, though. And his first four were considered conceptalbums...

Yeah, it is all very debatable where the concepts are embodied by instrumentals, I wouldn't disagree. For me I think it comes down to how the different parts cohere as a whole, or not. Unless you're a student of music theory, and I'm certainly not, that is pretty subjective.  Actually, if you are a student of music theory it's probably pretty subjective too Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2016 at 02:42
While not rock or prog there is a superb and lovely piano album, one of many of his but I really like this one. Le Onde by Ludovico Einaudi. It has its main theme done three different ways and the intro to part 1 is in itself a prelude involving the main theme.

Great for when you're exhausted from all that dancing around architecture. (Musical chairs Frank?)

Oh look what we have here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRBCo6fJpY
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2016 at 14:46
SUPREMUS "Artifacts" (2013)
Based on the novel by the Strugatsky brothers' Roadside Picnic "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2016 at 15:52
Originally posted by Ogion Ogion wrote:

SUPREMUS "Artifacts" (2013)
Based on the novel by the Strugatsky brothers' Roadside Picnic "
 
I was not aware of this, and it makes for an interesting coincidence - along with Guapo's History of the Visitation that is two instrumental prog concept albums inspired by Roadside Picnic to be released in 2013. 

I don't know of any others, though in late eighties / early nineties there was a British jazz fusion band who went by the name of Roadside Picnic.  From what little I recall they were decent but not particularly interesting.


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