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Mr. Mustard
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Topic: The Beatles made a prog rock song. Who wrote it? Posted: January 06 2017 at 20:20 |
Assuming they're all alive, which of the Beatles would be most likely to write a full-on prog song?
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Posted: January 06 2017 at 20:40 |
George Martin.
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Posted: January 06 2017 at 20:41 |
The 5th Beatle
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Posted: January 06 2017 at 21:00 |
Martin. If it had little or no guitars anyway (I don't think these were George's thing). Otherwise McCartney aka Macca. Possibly a collaboration between both (not sure if lyrics are George's thing either). The variously - and despite rumours that persist today - alive Macca's demonstrated some musical ambition for works larger than otherwise perfectly acceptable songs from the rest.
Imagine (sic) the Paul is dead rumours... emerging last year...
Oh one other thing - he'd, they'd be showing Yes a thing or two. Especially if ARW guested on the Martin / Macca piece.
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Posted: January 06 2017 at 21:36 |
I could see John writing one, provided he would still be collaborating with Yoko had he lived and the two had the itch to go back to the avant-garde. Granted, it would probably stink, but hey, it's still a prog song.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: January 06 2017 at 21:39 |
Probably Paul. He had the potential, judging by the occasional flourish on some Wings albums (Loup, First Indian On The Moon.....)
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Posted: January 06 2017 at 22:12 |
John, being the one who wrote the most of the Beatles' prog-esque cuts, along with his other experimental tendencies.
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uduwudu
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Posted: January 06 2017 at 22:50 |
It's odd with Lennon but the reason I would argue against him indulging in symphonic... er, dammit. prog... is he stated that he did not like the era of "excellence" (referring to early '70s prog bands) and finished with something about this "excellence" being "not something he believed in".
So much for beliefs no matter the notable personage who held them.
His prog rock moment was A Day In The Life but Macca would go on to Back To The Egg and Standing Stone and all that jazz.
Unless the closest was Ringo who had Greg Lake in his band... ;)
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 03:56 |
I am the Walrus is pretty much a prog song
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 04:07 |
IMHO, The Beatles, as 'revolutionary' as they were, steered popular music in the experimental direction. No doubt that they 'opened pathways' for future musicians. However, aside from a few things, I'm not a true fan of their craft. I respect it, understand it, NOT a fan of it......
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 05:29 |
well, who did write "A Day In Life"? in my opinion a full-fledged prog song
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 08:08 |
The Beatles was a band which, although in his first records has conceived a very simple tunes but, with the passage of time they starts to play a more sophisticated music : - some unusual chord progressions as for instance; "A Day in the Life", "She's Leaving Home" from SGT. PEPPER'S - different rock approaches and arrangements ( with some different parts in a single track) like in ; "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" , "Fixing A Hole" from Sgt Pepper's "Come Together", "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" from Abbey Road "Eight days a week" from Beatles for Sale , "Ticket to Ride" from Help, "Dig A Pony" and "I've got a Felling" from Let it Be - psychedelic influences such as in: "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) " , "Nowhere Man" from Rubbersoul, "Within You Without You " from Sgt Pepper's - the use of mellotron ( keyboard recognizable in progressive music " landscapes " in: "Fool On The Hill " and " Strawberry Fields Forever " from Magical Mistery Tour But if I must choose one of their members for prog composer promise , the name is Paul McCartney !!!
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 08:42 |
Within You Without You is a Raga with a 5/4 section. Thanks George - amazing piece of music.
Edited by Tom Ozric - January 07 2017 at 08:45
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 08:43 |
Mellotron on Fool On The Hill ??? Don't think so. Only on Strawberry Fields.....and Flying.
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 10:35 |
uduwudu wrote:
It's odd with Lennon but the reason I would argue against him indulging in symphonic... er, dammit. prog... is he stated that he did not like the era of "excellence" (referring to early '70s prog bands) and finished with something about this "excellence" being "not something he believed in".
So much for beliefs no matter the notable personage who held them.
His prog rock moment was A Day In The Life but Macca would go on to Back To The Egg and Standing Stone and all that jazz.
Unless the closest was Ringo who had Greg Lake in his band... ;)
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Well, do remember that John also didn't think at all highly of avant garde composers and jazzmen either, and yet he worked with and married Yoko, doing some stuff that would've made Stockhausen proud. That and the fact that he saw a hypothetical '70's era Beatles as being like ELO. He liked to do things and then try to separate himself from everyone else doing them.
BaldJean wrote:
well, who did write "A Day In Life"? in my opinion a full-fledged prog song
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That was one of the few proper Lennon-McCartney tag teams. The parts John sang and the part Paul sang were separate songs they brilliantly stitched together. Paul was also responsible for John's "I'd love to turn you on" line and helped Martin compose the string parts, completing the marriage.
Edited by LearsFool - January 07 2017 at 10:35
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 11:38 |
LearsFool wrote:
That was one of the few proper Lennon-McCartney tag teams. The parts John sang and the part Paul sang were separate songs they brilliantly stitched together. |
Probably that's the best recipe for getting prog Beatles.
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 15:54 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Mellotron on Fool On The Hill ??? Don't think so. Only on Strawberry Fields.....and Flying. |
at least we agree about Paul !
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 21:20 |
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uduwudu
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 21:52 |
LearsFool wrote:
uduwudu wrote:
It's odd with Lennon but the reason I would argue against him indulging in symphonic... er, dammit. prog... is he stated that he did not like the era of "excellence" (referring to early '70s prog bands) and finished with something about this "excellence" being "not something he believed in".
So much for beliefs no matter the notable personage who held them.
His prog rock moment was A Day In The Life but Macca would go on to Back To The Egg and Standing Stone and all that jazz.
Unless the closest was Ringo who had Greg Lake in his band... ;)
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Well, do remember that John also didn't think at all highly of avant garde composers and jazzmen either, and yet he worked with and married Yoko, doing some stuff that would've made Stockhausen proud. That and the fact that he saw a hypothetical '70's era Beatles as being like ELO. He liked to do things and then try to separate himself from everyone else doing them.
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I suppose Lennon same as everyone; is a summation of his contradictions rather than his resolutions. And what Lennon thought was only his view. Would anyone take any notice unless he had a string of numero uno hit pop type songs? Same with Yoko Ono's associations.
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