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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Lą, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Come again? OK, these are synthetic violins, but it's still violins. |
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Polymorphia ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
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Tupac is dope yo. Yes is dope too, and definitely underrepresented in the article (ELO too), but I think Tupac's influence is a bit stronger now than Yes', especially with the most lauded and influential album of 2015, Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly, featuring an "interview" with him, a pivotal moment in the album. He definitely warrants a paragraph or two.
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thebeastmustdie ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 30 2015 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 90 |
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couple of great albums, from the time when anyone could sample anything and usually get away with it. tribe's 'low end theory' would be up there too, and Organized Konfuzion's debut... btw I totally get why a prog lover might hate rap/hip hop. complete opposite genres in some ways. but I happen to like both
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8577 |
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Whatever happened to that guy who claimed to like prog but hated all prog you mentioned and would run around here trolling people by professing rappers that play a sample from a recording during a live performance and playing a Bach melody on an instrument was the same thing? He was a special kind of genius.
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cemego ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2010 Location: Philadelphia PA Status: Offline Points: 498 |
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I thoroughly enjoyed Rick Wakeman's romp through old man pervy sexy jokes. I was disappointed he didn't keep going. F*CK the "Rock and Roll" hall of fame. They can suck it.
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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He strayed too close to the camp of the RIO/Avant-Garde-ists, who as you know make the hordes of Genghiz Khan look like an under-10s ballet troupe on a Sunday outing. I'm afraid to say that they killed him and ate him. |
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Pelata ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2010 Location: NC-USA Status: Offline Points: 364 |
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I'm not saying there's no art in rap music, I just can't get into it. To each their own.
That said, for a band like Yes to barely get a mention in an article like that? Shameful. |
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2dogs ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2011 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Oh I read it as not needing to explain who ELO, Journey and Yes were
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"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette
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twosteves ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 01 2007 Location: NYC/Rhinebeck Status: Offline Points: 4077 |
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Tupac was a martyr and now according to Biggie an accidental martyr----so anyone that dies young OD's--suicide---murdered---is going to carry a certain interest and mythical greatness---forever.
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stewe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Czechoslovakia Status: Offline Points: 593 |
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My thoughts as well. I am not a fan of such jokes in general, but in this context it was a great oxymoron - juxtaposition between achievements such as Heart of Sunrise/Close to the Edge and silly, nasty joking. No big words of thanks or crocodile tears. I think there were enough of them. Just an innocent mockery on opulent and politically correct so called Rock and Roll HoF. But I liked other speeches too, particularly the one of Geddy Lee. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
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Martyr? A martyr is a person who sacrifices his life for a greater cause. Tupac was a criminal who died as he lived.
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altaeria ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 05 2004 Location: Philadelphia Status: Offline Points: 178 |
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When will some rapper break the mold and give us mixed 9/8 with 7/4 meter ?? Maybe they could babble over isolated instrumental tracks from the first UK album. |
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aglasshouse ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
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Tupac is more of a modern contemporary and thus warrants more article-space, and of course Uncle Kendrick's interview with him on Mortal Man (I think) is also a reason he should. I'm sure if this article was written in 1973 Yes would have been the highlight. But while I think Tupac's influence is massive, I think it's a bit muddied when we're talking about whose influence is larger if we're considering them both in terms of music as a whole -- that's just something I'm not really sure of. But Tony's right in the fact that Tupac deserves more article space considering it's the modern era.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
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As I understand, Tupac was killed about 20 years ago, so I don't think that's very modern anymore. Besides, once again, he's not rock, so what's he got to do in a rock event? |
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aglasshouse ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
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20 years is more modern than 50 years, I would think. As for the rock part, yeah....the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is very...interesting in the way it perceives what "rock" is defined as. Rock is such an unbelievably massive genre that encompasses innumerable other subgenres that it's not too hard to believe that they would at some point bring rap under that banner. I personally think it's silly for them to do so because well I don't consider it rock, and the 'pro' arguments consist of strawmen of black-culture-despising reactions to the phenomenon and beating around the bush of finding real reasons why the Hall of Fame should other than the former. You gotta be a certain amount of crazy to agree with Gene Simmons on an issue. Aside from this, this undercuts the fact that jazz artists have also been inducted, like Ray Charles -- and he isn't rock either. Just a thought. I believe in all honesty that if the R&RHOF believes that rap and specifically Tupac are worthy of induction, let them be free to do so. As for the article nonsense, it's coming from the BBC so I really don't take them too seriously anyway. But if they are juxtaposing Tupac with Yes or ELO then it's nothing short of a smart decision as a publication to talk more about Tupac. He appeals to the younger and more impressionable audience much more than Yes, simply because more young people know who he is. It's a simple but effective move. Hell, they talked more about Joan Baez than they did Tupac, mainly because of the Donald Trump reference to (likely) capitalize on current hot-button politics. I'd say all-in-all it's not something to get too worked up about.
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Thatfabulousalien ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 27 2016 Location: Aussie/NZ Status: Offline Points: 1409 |
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"DONALD TRUMP INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK 'N ROLL HALL OF FAME 2018"
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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aglasshouse ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2014 Location: riding the MOAB Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
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Wouldn't surprise me- I honestly have no clue how the mind of Greg Harris operates. Rusty gears and broken circuits.
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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4807 |
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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HemispheresOfXanadu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 28 2012 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4339 |
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What's all this about a toilet and who said yes and why is it significant?
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@ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak.
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 6830 |
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That's not even the worst picture of Howe that I've seen!! ![]() |
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