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skippyrocks
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Posted: November 24 2017 at 22:04 | ||
Rush!
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Larkstongue41
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Posted: November 25 2017 at 09:50 | ||
I'm far from being the biggest Beatles fan so I won't be able to make their case as well as some other folks would but although their music has become some kind of a pop rock cliché, their songwriting skills are undeniable. Sure most of their stuff is very simplistic almost childish but as Bowie said (I believe it was Bowie) they made the avant-garde accessible which is a feat that not many have been able to reproduce this well. I consider Sgt. Peppers and the White Album especially to be genuine masterpieces. Anyways I'm not trying to negate your opinion or anything, it's just that I used to think the same way before actually listening to the Beatles' stuff and being aware of your taste for the avant-garde, I think you might realize that part of their work (tiny as it may be) is not that far away from the great RIO legends.
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Logan
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Posted: November 25 2017 at 11:35 | ||
I voted in this poll years ago, but I don't think I commented. I far prefer the Beatles. I don't think that the Fab Four were terribly talented, but they worked with some very talented and musically knowledgeable people, including, of course, George Martin and had some interesting ideas that others helped them to develop (I like, for instance how they borrowed techniques from musique concrete composers).
The Beatles were hugely influential of course, and I hear their influence in a lot more music that I like than the influence of Rush (I'm not really much of a hard rock kind of guy). Can't imagine a Rush parody band half as good as the Rutles either. And one of my favourite Brit comedians, Peter Serafinowicz, has parodied plenty of Beatles stuff. Here in Canada Peter Mansbridge hasn't even done one Rush parody (he has interviewed Geddy Lee). I don't care if this topic is apples and oranges, or was intended as a just for fun kind of poll (frankly polls are generally time-wasters), I can easily answer this by saying that I prefer the Beatles. Been years, but going to play Magical Mystery Tour right now (my fave as a child). |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: November 25 2017 at 15:24 | ||
I don't believe In Geddy Lee ! I just believe in ...
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 25 2017 at 20:42 | ||
While their foray into avant was important given they were doing it as a wildly popular band, it's not even necessary for them to be regarded as good songwriters. Whether one thinks Burt Bacharach is too safe is entirely irrelevant, he is a good songwriter. In the same way, the band which wrote Yesterday, Something, Here Comes the Sun, Let it Be among many other songs, too many to be listed in a single post, are good songwriters (at the very least). Rush are great at putting together technical music, but not at writing songs. If Beatles is pop-rock cliche, songs like Different Strings are ten times more cliche once stripped off Rush's excellent delivery. Not directed at you by the way, just building on your arguments.
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M27Barney
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Posted: November 27 2017 at 05:42 | ||
Rush - far superior musicians - who could argue with that - I'm a better drummer than Ringo Star......
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miamiscot
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Posted: December 01 2017 at 09:01 | ||
Ringo Starr versus Neil Peart.
Sounds like a fair fight. (I voted for The Beatles as Rush dropped off after Moving Pictures and The Beatles just got better and better.)
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Argo2112
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Posted: December 01 2017 at 11:13 | ||
Love both bands. Rush had better players while the Beatles was more influential.
If the question is who do I prefer I would probably say Rush but who was more important to music? No question ,The Beatles.
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Hrychu
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Posted: December 02 2017 at 11:53 | ||
I picked the Beatles mostly because of the monument that is the Abbey Road medley.
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Jeffro
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 04:23 | ||
There's more to music than technical proficiency. I'm as big a Rush fan as anyone but Rush can't touch the Beatles in so many ways. I love the Beatles. I love Rush but if we're comparing these two bands in totality, it has to go to the Beatles. On the other hand, it's batsh*t crazy to even try to compare these two bands.
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chopper
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 05:05 | ||
I doubt it. And being superior musicians doesn't make them a better band necessarily.
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essexboyinwales
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 07:24 | ||
Rush, but I can't say that I'm a huge fan of either. I keep trying with Rush, but they're just not my cup of tea, most of the time...
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Blaqua
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Posted: December 07 2017 at 03:00 | ||
I hold both groups in the utmost esteem but since I have to vote for one, Beatles get my vote: their post-1965 albums are masterpieces, some of them groundbreaking. |
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Mortte
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Posted: December 09 2017 at 05:37 | ||
I love Rush too, but Beatles is just greater. I like also beginning albums of the Beatles, but never been a big fan of after Signals Rush albums. Power Windows and Presto are ok.
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iluvmarillion
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 22:29 | ||
What defines a musician? You can argue that song writing ability rates higher than ability to play a musical instrument, since there aren't as many song writers of the calibre of The Beatles, as there are great guitarists, or drummers.
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iluvmarillion
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Posted: December 19 2017 at 22:37 | ||
Should have added that bands are more than the sum of the parts of the individual musicians. The Beatles were a much different band after Ringo Starr joined them. Starr wasn't a technical drummer like Neil Peart but the emphasis on the back beat in his drumming style made The Beatles a much better band than when Pete Best was in the band.
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Peter
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Posted: December 20 2017 at 06:13 | ||
Does this bus go to the asylum?
I listen to the Fab Four forty times as often. |
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