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Posted: June 29 2018 at 10:06

Easy Money wrote:

^ You can compare Trump to Clinton or the devil himself and it won't change who Trump is, a sleazy dishonest crude immoral pig, and yes, since he holds political office and has run for that office at least three times or more, he is most definitely a politician. Before that he was just a sleazy lying immoral filthy rich ultra-elite business man.

Definition of politician:
A person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of an elected office.

I'm not comparing Trump to Clinton or the devil. Did you read what I wrote? I defended Hillary saying she is not the devil.

All your descriptors about Trump are the same descriptors of the Clinton gang, so we agree to agree.....I'm good.

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But that is Hillary's fault he was elected,

I'd say 8 years of Obama played a big role in that too.

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I too am starting to think that Trump will get re-elected......He has built a very strong argument to try it again,

It remains to be seen. He may screw up with his tax reform and trade wars big time.

Agree on both......Trade wars is a hyped issue. Trade issues are used to get countries to talk and renegotiate. It's the duties that need to be paid attention to that make the product coming into the US competitive with our own internal production. US collects the duty based on the value on the import documents, it is designed to make a level playing field. The US is the largest market in the world, every country wants to sell here, the US has the upper hand and we pay our bills...Cash flow baby!

People think we are f***ing Canada, we are not. They have been winning that war for decades with sectors like Lumber, Poultry and Eggs. The Lumber dispute has been going on since the 80's, Canada sending lumber here well under market prices. Then Canada's tariffs on eggs and dairy, well over 200% in some cases if we send those products north.

On the flip side I have talked to people across the pond, if they are looking at spending $70K on a Harley Davidson bike, a $2K duty is not going to block that purchase, nor are people going to stop drinking Tenn Bourbon.....These are just nudges to get people to the negotiating table, and who better to have there than Trumpy LOL

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Posted: June 29 2018 at 09:35

^ You can compare Trump to Clinton or the devil himself and it won't change who Trump is, a sleazy dishonest crude immoral pig, and yes, since he holds political office and has run for that office at least three times or more, he is most definitely a politician. Before that he was just a sleazy lying immoral filthy rich ultra-elite business man.

Definition of politician:
A person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of an elected office.

Edited by Easy Money - June 29 2018 at 09:47

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Posted: June 29 2018 at 09:19

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So that's one of the arguments, you're tired of politicians and Hillary is a politician so she's a bad choice? No matter how bad the politicians are doing, thinking that you're better off having an actual non-politician in a political position is just stupid. They may be rich elites but but at least they know very well what they're doing, and being a politician is stopping them from taking on the much more morally depleted position of a high-level businessperson.
I also still don't understand what really bad mistakes she's made to be so unpopular.

Dude read what you wrote....

The country is tired of politicians, yes.

Hillary was a bad choice because she was simply, a bad choice.

You are fine with electing a bad politician????? Confused

Rich elite politicians? How on earth do they become rich elites in the political pay scale???? They became rich with insider trader information using govt knowledge? LOL

Dude, there are tons of politicians who are morally depleted also. Like husbands who cheat on their wife's that are suffering with brain cancer, that lie on TV about affairs and blue dresses that happened in the WHITE HOUSE!!! Are you kidding me......

Someone else can explain to you why she may be unpopular, I've never liked her or Bill from their Arkansas days so I am biased.

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Posted: June 29 2018 at 05:18

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^You really do live in a bubble, don't you?

So you believe Hillary made no mistakes?

Never said that. But compared to Trump, you've got to be kidding, right?

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And that the Russians caused her to lose the election?

What you forget is that she had more of the popular vote than Trump and only lost by 77,000 people in three states. This was by no means the landslide many of his supporters imply. We could easily blame this on Comey, a possible violation of the Hatch Act, but it's a lot more complicated than that.

The Russian meddling is a real issue here with multiple intelligence agencies concluding as such. We'll have to be patient with the Mueller investigation. I refer you to The Dark Elf's earlier postings on that.

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You believe Facebook and Twitter and Youtube made people vote for Trump?

Absolutely. Trump supporters are really that stupid. All you need to do is read what they post and share on social media. There are even people studying this phenomena.* You also forgot InfoWars, Breitbart and Fox News, among others.

*See: https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.04291

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Posted: June 29 2018 at 00:08

And don't forget Pizzagate! She was involved in that! The mainstream media don't want to talk about it! So sad!

Honestly, I'm not an American and currently busy being angry about our own right-wing government, but things like that are just bizarre.

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 20:24

I also still don't understand what really bad mistakes she's made to be so unpopular.

emails man, emails

also, shes a woman, which is obviously a big no-no.

some snark aside, I've often felt this about the way Nancy Pelosi too. So much vitriol spewed about her, you can almost see the hate leech out of the eyeballs...now being the former speaker of the house this makes a little more sense to me...but still...

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 19:39

Catcher10 wrote:

progaardvark wrote:

^You really do live in a bubble, don't you?

So you believe Hillary made no mistakes? And that the Russians caused her to lose the election? You believe Facebook and Twitter and Youtube made people vote for Trump?

Do you expect an honest answer to your questions? LOL

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 19:36

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But that is Hillary's fault he was elected,

I'd say 8 years of Obama played a big role in that too.

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I too am starting to think that Trump will get re-elected......He has built a very strong argument to try it again,

It remains to be seen. He may screw up with his tax reform and trade wars big time.

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 16:42

Here is a list of many of the lies told by the number one politician in the US, D Trump:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

Edited by Easy Money - June 28 2018 at 16:46

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 16:37

Everybody knows that wealthy business men never tell lies.

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 16:34

So that's one of the arguments, you're tired of politicians and Hillary is a politician so she's a bad choice? No matter how bad the politicians are doing, thinking that you're better off having an actual non-politician in a political position is just stupid. They may be rich elites but but at least they know very well what they're doing, and being a politician is stopping them from taking on the much more morally depleted position of a high-level businessperson.
I also still don't understand what really bad mistakes she's made to be so unpopular.

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 15:26

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Alexandria Cortez just beat a 10 term incumbent in NY as a dem socialist, that's a message she sent. We are tired of the same old same old politicians....she is not a politician and neither is Trump.

We'll see what happens to her, her platform is a tough one and not a lot of people voted. Abolishing ICE and things like free tuition and Medicare for everyone...we'll see. Extreme right wing beliefs, she is a Bern lover...

Regardless of party, her win is a message to your crusty old politicians.

As an old commie pinko, I'm tinkled pink (geez-us) by Cortez's win but that could only happen on the planet of New York.

That's pretty funny Steve LOL

It is sad that I have heard only 40K people voted, clearly the missing votes might harm her against a Republican, when that campaign starts. Again, we will see. I still think her win is a message, even though we are talking two extremes, her severe right wing thinking and Trump's severe issues period LOL

, but he is doing better than most thought he would, it's no surprise, he is a businessman.

He'll never be a politician, and I am more than fine with that. Also politicians will never have the business savvy that he does......I'm tired of politicians, lying sacks of horse-dung!

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 13:37

Catcher10 wrote:

Alexandria Cortez just beat a 10 term incumbent in NY as a dem socialist, that's a message she sent. We are tired of the same old same old politicians....she is not a politician and neither is Trump.

Regardless of party, her win is a message to your crusty old politicians.

As an old commie pinko, I'm tinkled pink (geez-us) by Cortez's win but that could only happen on the planet of New York.

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 12:51

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^You really do live in a bubble, don't you?

So you believe Hillary made no mistakes? And that the Russians caused her to lose the election? You believe Facebook and Twitter and Youtube made people vote for Trump?

If you believe things like that sir, you need to get out and talk to people.

Alexandria Cortez just beat a 10 term incumbent in NY as a dem socialist, that's a message she sent. We are tired of the same old same old politicians....she is not a politician and neither is Trump.

Regardless of party, her win is a message to your crusty old politicians.

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 10:05

^You really do live in a bubble, don't you?

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 10:00

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progaardvark wrote:

twseel wrote:

Catcher10 wrote:

Its just as ridiculous as the Russians meddling in our elections. Your hatred of a man who was voted into the White House clouds your thinking...LOL

OMG...of course there will never be any proof come out of what the Clinton's did to so many people in their political life. Any proof is locked away in caskets...you all are funny.

It's definitely smart to stay skeptical of all major and minor news broadcasters, especially the 24/7 news channels in America which fill up their time with loads of echo chamber opinions instead of actually presenting news, but by this logic I have to stand by the other guys and tell you that if you are aware that there is no solid proof, you shouldn't preach that stuff in a political discussion because you're basically saying that you'd readily believe some news channels bringing this fact up without proof...

I'm still struggling to figure out what's really so bad about Clinton, her husband didn't flush the country down the drain exactly and she seems to know what she's talking about as well to a reasonable degree. She doesn't instill hope and bring people together like Obama and she seems kind of cold but apparently that alone is enough to make people assume the worst about her.

I guess it's always easier to imagine how bad the things were that someone could have done without people knowing about it than properly condemning things that were done out in the open and without any shame or remorse...

The reason the right despises Clinton is because they've been programmed to. This all started when she was First Lady and tried to do something about health care as a policy issue. The right hated her because she rocked the boat and wouldn't play the traditional role of Bill's wife (i.e. "stay in the kitchen"). I remember watching Fox News back in those days. It was a mind-numbing experience. They poo-poo'ed her every day, and with endless repetition, trained their viewers to essentially believe she was the spawn of Satan. And it wasn't just her. Nancy Pelosi was also treated this way. They loved bashing the New York Times and the Washington Post and used the word "liberal" and "feminism" as if they were curse words. In other words, they were a propaganda outfit from the start. There wasn't anything fair or balanced about their programming. And those on the right that couldn't think their way out of a paper bag, fell for it. And are still falling for it.

Most sensible people know Hillary Clinton would have been able to do the job and knew she had the experience. Putin didn't want Clinton to win because he knew she'd fight back. Now Putin has the biggest dumbass on the planet and he's loving every minute of it.

Agreed, in fact Hillary may have been the most qualified person to run for the office. No one had her resume. Secretary of state, Senator & 8 years in the white house seeing things up close. Unfortunately she made some mistakes & that human meat grinder of a news station ( Fox News) did a good job of convincing everyone she was the devil. Now we're stuck with Uncle Donnie. Dead

Nahh, there is no news service or group of people that convinced people that Hillary made mistakes, she made massive mistakes on her own, of her own doing and will. The people clearly understand the gravity of her mistakes as a govt official. The security risk of her actions are what the people understand.......clearly you are right when state "we are stuck with Uncle Donnie". But that is Hillary's fault he was elected, the people are fed up with the likes of Hillary and her holier than thou attitude.

And her mistakes did not help her cause. She ran a campaign from a soapbox that was looking down on the people and very condescending attitude, even women were not too enthusiastic with her, she did not come over well at all. No news service created this cloud around her, she did it all by herself. I also don't think the people think she is the devil, she is not. Simply a politician that lacks negotiation skills, compassion for the common people and holds zero respect by other country governments and leaders. Her leadership as Sec of State was terrible at best. Also, the people are fed up with the ongoing family politicians like the Clinton's and Bush's. They are all long in the tooth and need to be retired to the closest retirement home....None of them are needed anymore. Homeboy Bill just keeps opening up his big yapp and more and more looking like the big idiot and womanizer that he is.

You Obama lovers better hope and pray that nobody in that administration knew about or authorized any Trump campaign spying, or we will see another Watergate scandal develop..Too bad Sir David Frost is gone, to interview Obama.

I too am starting to think that Trump will get re-elected......He has built a very strong argument to try it again, and clearly the Dems have no answer for him other than bitchin and moanin about how he talks and behaves. The people, the US voter, do not pay attention to all that stuff.

If the likes of CNN continue doing what they do against the POTUS, they will only help the Republicans and Trump. They need to report the positives and stop fueling division, the pendulum is swinging the other way.

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Posted: June 28 2018 at 04:05

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I feel ill:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justice-kennedy-us-supreme-courts-pivotal-vote-to-retire/ar-AAzfJVk?ocid=spartanntp

He'll just be replaced by another Nazi. Only worse.

And thus the problem. Kennedy at least sided with the minority once and awhile. But my illness is coming from the long term view (and McConnell's anti-American actions) more than anything else.

Yes, unfortunately, after Trump is gone and stricken from the record like some deposed ancient Egyptian Pharaoh, his Supreme Court appointees will spew vile bile for the next 40 years. And that's what makes me sick.

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Posted: June 27 2018 at 20:50

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Man With Hat wrote:

I feel ill:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justice-kennedy-us-supreme-courts-pivotal-vote-to-retire/ar-AAzfJVk?ocid=spartanntp

He'll just be replaced by another Nazi. Only worse.

And thus the problem. Kennedy at least sided with the minority once and awhile. But my illness is coming from the long term view (and McConnell's anti-American actions) more than anything else.

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Posted: June 27 2018 at 17:42

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Not defending Kennedy's stance but he has voted on the so-called 'liberal' side now and then,... the others never. What is even more strange is that Thomas...an African American...votes on the right when his own people have never been helped in any manner ,social or otherwise, by the white conservatives on the right.

I have never understood that.

The phrase "Uncle Tom" comes to mind. Humorously enough, in a different era, he'd be strung up for voicing an opinion, any opinion.

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