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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 6830 |
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Interesting example! I've been playing bass for over 40 years, and the "fingers only" seems to be brought up more in the hard rock/blues rock genre (Led Zep for example), as well as blues, jazz, fusion and some related art forms. Prog is one of the few idioms where bassists not only used, but excelled using plectrum style. Listen to Greg Lake's playing on "Schizoid Man," it would be essentially impossible to play with fingers. He strove for a sound emulating the bottom end of a piano, using round wound strings and plectrum. Chris Squire is another famous example, and there are many more. Mike Rutherford could go back and forth in styles, as did Squire, but his sound was mostly Herco pick on Rotosounds. For example: ![]() Edited by cstack3 - July 15 2018 at 23:59 |
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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Prog is really stupid and out of time music. That was the dogma in the music circles in Finland in the late seventies and early eighties.
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Thanks for stopping in! Keep our US President, please!
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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I made said post because I'm a plectrum bass player - Squire is my bass hero
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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![]() Havenīt thought Finland very hippie/socialist land, but yesterday news make me smile, there was 2000 protesters in against Trump/Putin-meeting demonstration, only 50 people wanted to welcome them...
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Wizard Hats and cloaks...are we talking dogma or cliche?
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....and to think I was worried about digressing.....
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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I am thinking that, since, there is no single authority on the largely amorphous subject of prog. There is no Dogma! But I suppose that when you start looking into the sub genre then by nature the qualification criteria for each area could be perceived as dogma....
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Lā, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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There is no single authority, but there are some common opinions that tend to become the said dogma.
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I've only read the first two pages, but found that a lot of the quoted axioms were actually fairly reasonable. However here are some that I have misgivings about: There was no prog after the Spanish Civil war Camel is not Camel without Noam Chomsky All great prog was written by people with mouth ulcers Pink Floyd only made records because they couldn't figure out how to design buildings properly |
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"Camel is not Camel without Noam Chomsky"
To Noam is to love'm.
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Scorpius ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2016 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 281 |
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"Wait, Pink Floyd released 3 more albums after Roger left? They must suck."
"The Final Cut is not Pink Floyd, its a Roger Waters solo album" "When King Crimson formed, Prog was born" and my favourite non-prog axiom
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HPL might have been into this one ![]() https://mutinyinjonestown.bandcamp.com/album/the-daemons-mock-me-while-i-sleep
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Based on a comment from the one song above all others thread:
If you aren't into King Crimson, then you aren't into prog. Or, generally: If you aren't into [insert a classic prog rock band name], then you aren't into prog. |
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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"Band X is not prog, because *insert reasons that are argued as prog for other bands*"
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 6830 |
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Damn, at first I thought you said "Brand X!" I was getting ready for a fight!
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