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Saperlipopette!
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^??? I don't get what the use of flute has to do with anything? Yusef Later, Bobby Jaspar, Herbie Mann, Eric Dolphy, Buddy Collette mm... recorded albums from the 1950's and on playing the jazzflute. Neither do I understand avant/free jazz as an argument for being fusion... Do you guys know what fusion is - or rather what it isn't? Anyway Sun Ra is pretty much jazz fusion on his later 70's albums such as Lanquidity.
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Jazz fusion (also known as fusion)[1] is a musical genre that developed in the late 1960s when musicians combined aspects of jazz harmony and improvisation with styles such as funk, rock, rhythm and blues, and Latin jazz. During this time many jazz musicians began experimenting with electric instruments and amplified sound for the first time, as well as electronic effects and synthesizers. Many of the developments during the late 1960s and early 1970s have since become established elements of jazz fusion musical practice I quess you´re thinking Coltrane is not fusion, because he hasn´t got strict elements from rock, funk, rhythm & Blues or Latin Jazz or used any electronic instruments. Anyway I think he started to fuse elements outside ordinary jazz already in his great "a Love Supreme"-album (I hear there influences from Asian music). But I believe no-one is saying him Fusion artist. I am just tired about this "what are prog what are not what are fusion what are not". Not going to continue this anymore.
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Saperlipopette!
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^ You can be tired of this as much as you like I don't really care - you're wrong and I'm right. Yep it as it says developed in the late 60's. Jazz fusing itself with blues, latin, asian music... all kinds of genres has been there from the very beginning. But that does not make Duke Ellington or Sidney Bechet jazz fusion.
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^^Sure you´re absolutely right. Still I am saying this "it`s not belong into this genre" is just so stupid. Canterbury prog is great example. I think originally it was supposed to mean only progbands that were in the seventies in Canterbury. But in PA there are put newer bands that haven´t been even in the near of Canterbury, just because someone is thinking they´re sounding the same. Also linked this fusion thing, my opinion is that Soft Machine was fusion already in the beginning (maybe you´re thinking vocals are forbidden in fusion), but it´s put in Canterbury in PA, because it´s one of the bands formed from the origin "The Wilde Flowers".
Really have to say I don´t care what has put to where, I just thing it´s stupid when someone is saying something as his favourite artist in some thread somebody has to say "it doesn´t belong into this or that genre". To me it´s totally same if someone is saying his greatest progartist Kajagoogoo. If someone is totally pissed what Kajagoogoo is playing, it´s his problem.
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I never really gave much thought to categories and
especially sub-categories of musical genres.
Maybe calling out some of Coltrane’s music as jazz fusion is like
calling out Rush as Rap… Roll the Bones Anyway, not of that really matters to me. Here’s another excellent fusion collaboration not mentioned yet. At least I think its Jazz fusion. Pastorius/Metheny/Ditmas/Bley |
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If eclectic counted Birds and Buildings/Diagonal/King Crimson/Delirium/Satin Whale/Cabezas de Cera and tons of others would be here. Anyway, this is way more than ten, but I love fusion so here:
-Soft Machine -Blue Effect -Mahavishnu Orchesta -Out of Focus -Brainstorm -Secret Oyster -Area -Nektar -Fulano -Passport -Catapilla -Mar de Robles -Perigeo -Uzva -Coma -Jazz Q -Aera -Nucleus -Sloche -Good God -Discus -Duello Madre -Pocket Orchestra -The Viola Crayola -Machine and the Synergetic Nuts -The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble -Weather Report -Arti & Mestieri -Hiromi Uehara -Iceberg And tons of others like Caldera, Mahagon, Fusion Orchestra, Pekka Pohjola, Messengers, etc, etc. Edit: Can't believe I forgot Soft Machine, them and KC were the ones to introduce me to fusion. Edited by RomerilloLaMissFripp - May 27 2018 at 07:56 |
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You may think its stupid for me to claim that John Coltrane doesn't fit in to the fusion-genre - I think its stupid to place him somewhere he doesn't belong. We got plenty more precise, meaningful, existing terms to use for all his periods. Its not like I'm obsessed with genres or anything but they can be a handy tool. Miles Davis lived long enough to make In A Silent Way, Bitches Brew etc... Coltrane never did anything resembling that in any way. I'm sure he would have made something fusion-related that would continued to blown our minds even 50 years later if he had the chance though. Canterbury will always be a flawed "genre" because like Krautrock it mainly describes a scene that took place somewhere more or less specific. But if a new band from Scandinavia are heavily inspired by Can, Faust and Amon Düül II I would probably use the term Kraut nevertheless - although I know its technically wrong. As it would still be kind of helpful.
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Machine & The Synergetic Nuts are also too much overlooked - Leap Second Neutral is one of the hidden gems of the Cuneiform catalogue. Edited by Mascodagama - May 28 2018 at 03:17 |
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Don't know if it's been added yet but all of Septober Energy is amazing too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgrDxr4EbaI&feature=youtu.be Edit: Fixed the link.
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Eider Stellaire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGItgCuAvA Pierre Moerlen's Gong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylKvglDzBU4 Katamaran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgDqUaWHWH0 Exil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9IxggeHwJw Dark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-yrPd8n2Qw
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In alphabetical order:
7 For 4 Arcana Brand X Etna Antoine Fafard Herbie Hancock Mahavishnu Orchestra Niacin Oregon Passport Return To Forever Santana Sloche Soft Machine David Torn Weather Report
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1. Frank Zappa 2. The Aristocrats 3. Mahavishnu Orchestra 4. Brand X 5. Soft Machine Honorable Mentions: Steely Dan, Weather Report, Karate
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