B.J Wilson - Why is there so little praise |
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Icarium
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Posted: August 12 2018 at 12:09 |
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To me B.J Wilson is the seacret weapon of Procol Harum, its most sacred ingredience and element that you desire to pay attention to. Hes drumming is so floating and also a bit crazy, hes strikes me as a similae kind of drummer as Kieth Moon, a drummer whom was unrestrained and had a very good sense of placement and underneath good natural tallent.
I can understand the nickname "the Octopus in a Tub" cause he sat very low, but also hes armes were swirling chaos with presision. One of few rock drummers with the floating flair of a jazz drummer. Also a drummer as like Moon, an orchestrator and not obly just a time-keeper. A fun fact is that he is the drummer of Rocky Horror Picture Show. I founs that to be a cool trivia. I hope more drummer magazines and netsites have more focus on hem, also music forums in general ought to pay respect to the secret weapon to Procols magic. Edited by Icarium - August 12 2018 at 12:51 |
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The.Crimson.King
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Procol's secret weapon indeed! BJ's drum solo starts around the 1:55 mark
{Edited to fix embed -L} Edited by Logan - August 14 2018 at 08:21 |
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Icarium
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Have your heard Rocky Horror Picture Show album
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The.Crimson.King
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Oh ya, saw the film a few times...had no idea that was BJ though. Next time I'll pay some attention to the drums instead of my wife dressed as Magenta
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B.J. is not my biggest favourite drummers, but I have always really liked heīs way of playing. Essential part of Procol sound.
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Indeed, a great drummer and in some ways, Procol's best kept secret, though BJW was often asked to join other groups Edited by Sean Trane - August 13 2018 at 03:26 |
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Wilson was an extremely inventive and talented drummer that never got the praise simply because he was not in a straight up rock band like the Who. Procol Harum was always considered an arty, classically based progressive band and the public never looked upon them as virtuoso players. Procol was never as popular as a band like the Who, and never got the same exposure. And, believe me, Wilson was almost as crazy as Keith Moon at times as Moon was a close friend of Wilson. (Now, what does that tell you?)
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Edited by Icarium - August 13 2018 at 06:06 |
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Icarium
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I think hes best drumling is on Broken Barricades
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BJ's best drumming, imo, was on Broken Barricades, Procol's 9th and Live: In Concert With The (something) Symphony being his best.
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The.Crimson.King
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For my favorite BJ - shoot, my fave PH song ever, I'd go with "Still There'll Be More". This live version has the great German TV special Gary Brooker spoken intro...
"Mr Wilson...Herr Wilson" Edited by Logan - August 14 2018 at 08:24 |
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Exactly my thoughts.
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The.Crimson.King
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Broken Barricades is definitely the weakest album of the Trower line-up for me (maybe because he knew he was leaving his heart wasn't in it?)...that said, it does have some moments. Luskus Delph is nice and Simple Sister a powerful tune, but I prefer Playmate of the Mouth. Getting back to BJ, I think Home is my fave album of his Procol work.
Just read on BJ's wiki page that he turned down an offer from Page & Plant to join Led Zep so Bonham got the spot instead. Now that would have been an interesting alternative universe in rock history Edited by The.Crimson.King - August 14 2018 at 09:53 |
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^ That tale is interesting since I have read in many places that Plant brought Bonham into the band and that was part of the deal from the beginning. The story goes that Page and Jones went to hear Plant in the country where he was in a band and they asked him to try out and that Bonham was asked to join at the same time because they both played in Band of Joy.
So then maybe Wilson was asked even before they went to hear Plant back when they were asking Reid to sing...?
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Page was very high on Wilson, but Wilson never really considered joining the nascent Zep. Procol was an established and successful group.
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That's the way I've always heard the story too...maybe the wiki page is wrong and it was just Page or maybe Page & Jones that invited BJ to join before Plant/Bonham entered the picture?
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The story goes, if you believe it(!) is that Wilson said no before Plant suggested Bonham to Page. Or something like that. Or something completely different, perhaps!
Edited by SteveG - August 14 2018 at 12:35 |
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