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Dellinger
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^ Me too. I never seem to be able to remember what that song sounds like, even after just hearing it. And to have it leading over In the Wake of Poseidon and Exiles.
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Mortte
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^I am not suprised at all, more suprised I am that you donīt remember how Night Watch sounds, I think itīs very great melody. When making this poll, I was sure I Talk To the Wind, Exiles & Night Watch will get votes. Most suprised & glad I am Poseidon has done so well, just reason the second album really isnīt very much loved here.
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Dellinger
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^ I guess I'll have to check out that song again. Though perhaps the fact that I have only heard it live (I have not bought the Starless and Bible Black album) has something to do with it.
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Night Watch is an interesting track with a nice melody (lyrics based on the painting by Rembrandt)....but I have always thought that the lyrics are crammed into the melody and seem like he has to rush his delivery when singing them to get them to fit into the song structure. An odd song imho.
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The Dark Elf
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It's the odd meter that makes it a great song, IMHO. Love the controlled frenzy of the instrumental intro as well. As far as the lyrics go, it is perhaps the greatest poem depicting a painting by anyone this side of Don McLean's "Starry Night".
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The.Crimson.King
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That's nothing compared to Doctor Diamond where Wetton has to sing so fast he can't stuff in all the syllables |
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^ In great part I haven't got it because I already have just about all of it's songs on different live albums, and since about half of it is suposed to come from live performances (The Night Watch, I think, which I also have), and just about the only song that I really liked is Fracture, well, I thought there's really no point in buying it.
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Mortte
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^Well, if you havenīt heard as a whole I think you should at least listen it.
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Starless and Bible Black is a great album that anyone who enjoys KC should own.
Just outside their top 4 albums but it's still fantastic The middle improv tracks can be hard to get into but they do click after a while, and Great Deceiver and Lament are excellent (Lament is one of my all time fav KC tracks) and of course Fracture at the end I would definitely get this album if you don't own it. You won't be disappointed |
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I hadn't listened to Starless and Bible Black for quite some time and this thread made me listen to it again. I had forgotten how great Night Watch actually is. Maybe not the no. 1 Crimson song in my book but surely a worthy poll winner. This is what's so great about this forum, it makes me reappreciate such gems.
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The.Crimson.King
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Starless & Bible Black was my 1st Crimson album and for many years remained my #1.
I was already into ELP, Tull, Yes, Genesis & Gentle Giant at age 16. One September Saturday I went up to the counter of my local hole in the wall record store and said, "I really like those King Crimson album covers, what do they sound like?" The guy gets this evil smile and says, "I'll put something on." He dropped the needle on Fracture and by the time it ended my mind was blown. I bought S&BB on the spot...the next day I bought Lizard and the day after USA
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Yeah, I guess I should. I still have a few gaps of albums from King Crimson, mostly amended a bit by having the eras covered with live albums (if I had bought studio albums instead of live ones, I guess I would already have all their studio albums... but those live versions of songs are really something special that I wouldn't want to do without. For me many songs are so much better on some live version. |
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^Well, I have always been more studio-album guy, although I really love also some essential great live albums (not much listened live albums outside the official, mostly sixties-seventies releases). I have only Earthbound & USA from Crimson, I have listened those few newest Crimson lives.
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Dellinger
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^ I don't have USA, but instead have Collectable King Crimson, that includes two concerts, one of them is the very same from USA (Ausbury), but without edits nor overdubs (I think they corrected those things in the newest versions of USA, though), and the other concert is also great, and includes my very favourite version of Starless. All in all, it is my favourite live release from that era of the band. And yes, I actually like live albums very much, they often do wonderful things with the songs in their concerts, and King Crimson is one of those bands in which very often the songs are much better live, to the point I'm not really interested in listening to the studio ones again. Or at least not often.
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Mortte
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^Iīll quess you have already seen DGM-live pieces from Paris 1974? I found out quite recently them from youtube, theyīre really great, although I think they didnīt then fully succeeded in Starless. Really liked that "photoshopped" version of the Night Watch!
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Dellinger
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^ No, I haven't gotten into that Paris show... mostly, I think I already got enough from that line-up, with the Collectable vol 1, The 4 disc set "The Great Deceiver", and "The Night Watch" itself... I think those are all. Yet, I don't quiet understand what you mean about a "photoshopped" version on that album.
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^My point in whole post there is also moving picture, not just audio like in many old Crimson live pieces in youtube. I havenīt found any other old version of Starless with picture. In "The Night Watch" they have put some filter into picture, itīs hard to see whoīs there playing, but I think it fits really well into mood of that song.
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The Night Watch followed by Exiles
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