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Posted: October 13 2018 at 13:58
The American politically correct crowd is tiny and widely unpopular. Only 8% of Americans, according to Harvard Study. Although the PC mob is a tiny minority, they have a MSM Megaphone, and violence to boot. And Obama's former attorney general Eric Holder cheers on the PC mob, "When they go low, we KICK THEM!"
The PC mob berates, scolds, intimidates, abuses, and pontificates opinions as if they spoke for all Americans. Harvard claims the Majority of Americans hate PC culture.
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 12:45
I think he'll win in 2020. Even if something happens like a war or economic downturn, I can't think of a single potential candidate, Dem or Rep, that will be in a position to beat him.
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 11:10
SteveG wrote:
@micky. What do think of the GOP calling us a violent mob? Like we're the new version of the weather underground.
it plays to their knucklehead Faux guzzling supporters... fear and division.. motivates them like nothing else.. especially their own economic self interest....nothing new there.. just as making the Democrats, immigrants, the FBI and the press the enemies of the US.. excuse... current regime. It plays to the us against them formation that is on page 1 of the Republican playbook. Can't blame them, it works, it gets them riled up and motivated to vote.
However them calling Democrats or anyone not including their own neo fascist and hate mongering supporters a violent mob is a complete joke. Then again, what today revolving around the current politics of that party is not a joke. Though even less funny than my atttemps at jokes haha.
Democrats are angry no doubt and out to protest and show it... only in the eyes of totalitarian regimes.. or those with designs of being such would see the expressions of disagreement as anything but a redeeming expression of what this country stands for.
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 09:59
^ well said Greg.
Counting the days till 2021.. and the war stops upon Democrats and immigrants.. and begins against the real enemy of America.
Corporate America...
American perhaps after 3 decades of failed Republican economic theory and the destruction of the middle class and economic enslavement of the lower classes will finally shift gears and try something else other than the failed (under Reagan/Bush Classic. Bush Light, and sure to fail Toddler in Chief) regurgitations of supply side, trickle down economics that throw crumbs at us while making the very rich all the richer.
It is like I said.. if the Democratic party pulls that card, the economic card instead of the ID card/politics, they will create a political monster with the ID politics/demographic changes already cooked into the meal. It is why I have been calling it the upcoming Warren Revolution.. if she makes it and things play out and they are likely to... it will be similar to what Reagan did and establish a decade or more of control of this country.
It is a win waiting to be won.. only question is if the party, its leaders and its voters are smart enough to play it....
Warren is... the others? We shall see...
Edited by micky - October 13 2018 at 09:59
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 09:30
omphaloskepsis wrote:
Trump lowered my families taxes a few thousand a year.
I am always amazed at how some Trump-fluffers are so cheaply bought. And without even a kiss goodbye from the John come morning. Your negligible tax cut is being eaten away by higher medical care premiums, gas prices, inflation and rising costs due to Trump's absurd tariffs (they also proved detrimental to Herbert Hoover, but who reads history? Certainly not Trump and his 5th grade-level skills).
The thing is, the tax cut swindle has really done nothing for the economy except for mega-corporations buying back stocks at a record level ($178 billion in the first 3 months of 2018 alone), which artificially inflates the stock market. The economy was actually doing fine without any tax cuts at all. If you'd check the record, Obama's administration had 75 consecutive months of job growth, a presidential record.
Meanwhile, as billionaires like Betsy DeVos are buying fleets of super-yachts, the actual income of a middle-class worker is stagnating at 1974 levels. That's right, your dad had as much spending power and longer sideburns back in 1974 than you do now. While corporations and the 1% are stockpiling cash, they are certainly not sharing that horde with workers. The dribbles of wage growth are not commensurate with the massive profits billionaires are reeling. It is not even an arguable point. Stagnation of wages has gone hand in hand with ever mounting inflation and the dramatic increases in the cost of housing.
So enjoy your pennies while you can count them. Perhaps you are not near retirement age, but Trump and his feckless minions want to eliminate Social Security as we know it...because, after all, the rich deserve another tax cut. Bend over and smile. Perhaps they'll throw you a dollar or two at the point of entry, but you'll have to use your own towel to wipe up after them.
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 09:10
nahh.. too petite and far too classy... like the song goes my friend..
my inchworm don't want none unless you got Hillaryesque buns hon...
I do look forward to the day, and it is coming when old whitey man is made politically inconsequential and we can stop measuring candidates on 'oh yeah.. I'd have a beer with him' and start with 'oh yeah.. I'd hit that ass'
while Warren is my girl... I'd need to pop a pill to get up for that.. but Kamala Harris.. oh yeah.. I'd be all over that
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 08:21
hahahah. It is indeed the surrealistic Presidency... I'll give him for full credit for that. It has been an experience. Like a good acid trip. A complete break from the expectations of perceived reality where Presidents act like Presidents. The future generations will merely read of these years and say to themselves.. WTF!!! but we Steve.. we can say we experienced the Trump years. I really do pity the next President who has to follow Trump and return respect for the office, personal decorum, and ....well bring boring back to the White House hahah.
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 07:52
I'm no economist of course but like those that are.. I don't see how this trade war ends well. It might benefit a (politically intended) few in his constituency.. but as a whole.. including a whole other (and larger) aspect of his constituency it is likely to really hurt and one of the things economists across the board agree on.. trade wars are not something that are easily stepped back from. Once set in motion... the inertia of them is pretty much irresistible and impossible to reset to pre trade war levels.
Which is why so many feared this.. it is a global economy... like demographic and cultural change here.. nothing this President or any country is going to change.
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^ Absolutely! The economy works in a time warp. Trump has done nothing of consequence until just now and he's claiming that his mere miraculous presence on the oval office has made all the difference for the last year and a half. And his magical hair!
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Posted: October 13 2018 at 07:39
yeah.. if wrong the next Presient will clean it up. Something.. Clinton.. Obama. Democrats are used to doing after the repeated failed Republican attempts at supply side economics.
and if right.. poetic justice that they would take the credit as Trump has for Obama's policies...
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There is only one Trump cabinet member that believes that the Trump tariffs will work. Not Steve Mannuchin or any of the other Goldman Sachs cronies in the cabinet. It is an unknown quantity and quite risky. Only time will tell (1-2 years) before we know if Trump is right.
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ahhh... Trump and the economy... give him credit for not f**king up (yet) what he inherited.. which was a 7 year upswing after Obama's policies took us out of the 2008 Bush economic meltdown..
however I care as much about economics as the next guy.. which is little... most of the time it and the factors which take it up and down go beyond a President. Obama saved it, Trump might ruin it with the trade war. However as noted many MANY times.. most people don't vote economics.. which is why Trump is still sucking in approval numbers.
I read a great article on Politico this week about the coming catacyclism the Republican Party is about to suffer with regards to women voters but inside that artcile was a spot on comment and thought that cuts to the heart of why a great economy is not saving Trump nor the Repubicans in Congress.
That brings us to another reason these women are disillusioned: Under Trump, they say, many Republicans are peddling intolerance and exclusion. “It’s become normal to be a racist and a bigot, and those are not normal things,” said Jennifer Hackel Thrift, 43, a corporate headhunter in Austin, Texas. She had never voted for a Democrat until 2016—and now compares Fox News to Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels. When others in her family praise Trump’s handling of the economy, her answer is, “At what price? … We no longer have values as a country—except for ‘me first,’ ‘white is right.’ And that’s notright.”
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Posted: October 12 2018 at 16:39
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Business insider: Then again maybe it won't work. Gas prices are going up all over the country, and that tends to sour voters on incumbents, according to research from Dartmouth University. Nothing has been done about drug pricing, another Trump promise to his base.
Either way, what Trump's preference for big business means is that our economy will see more of the same (plus a tax cut). Corporations will continue to get away with abusive behavior. The gap between rich and poor will continue to widen, putting a drag on domestic economic growth. China will continue to advance its domestic economy by flouting the rules of global trade at the expense of other nations.
Trump lowered my families taxes a few thousand a year. I predict gas prices have hit their highs and will drop into the midterms. Want to bet on gas prices?
China? I agree with you when you say, " China will continue to advance its domestic economy by flouting the rules of global trade at the expense of other nations."Will they be able to get away with it against Trump? The good news? Trump will slow the Chinese down. Bad News? Chinese patiently plan hundreds of years into the future.
Drug Prices? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-signs-bills-lifting-pharmacist-gag-orders-drug-prices-n918721
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Business insider: Then again maybe it won't work. Gas prices are going up all over the country, and that tends to sour voters on incumbents, according to research from Dartmouth University. Nothing has been done about drug pricing, another Trump promise to his base.
Either way, what Trump's preference for big business means is that our economy will see more of the same (plus a tax cut). Corporations will continue to get away with abusive behavior. The gap between rich and poor will continue to widen, putting a drag on domestic economic growth. China will continue to advance its domestic economy by flouting the rules of global trade at the expense of other nations. https://www.businessinsider.com/there-are-no-in-winners-trumps-economy-2018-5
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Posted: October 12 2018 at 16:35
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I explained Obama’s debt. It was Bush war and disaster.
I hated GW Bush. My husband partially disagrees with you. Hubby is an economist and has traded stocks for a living for 20 years. He said, "just because you say Obama's debt was due to war and disaster doesn't make it so. Please provide detailed stats to back up your hypothesis."
My take on War? Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama pushed America into multiple wars. So far, Trump hasn't started a new war. So I can see how PEACE would minimize debt. However, under Trump ISIS was defeated. When was the last time you heard about ISIS in the news? And Trump is mediating PEACE with North Korea. In your lifetime, has the relationship with North Korea ever been better?
I hope Trump goes further and minimizes USA troops around the world. For example- We don't need so many troops in Germany and Japan. Plus we should charge Germany and Japan for their national defense, since both countries economies can afford it. Perhaps Trump will begin to charge other countries for their National defense?
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omphaloskepsis wrote:
Love him or hate him...Trump keeps his promises. I find it difficult to hate Trump for lowering my taxes, fantastic economy, ongoing denuclearization of North Korea, and No New Wars. Folks who hate Trump, hate him for his rhetoric, personality, keeping promises, as they parrot the MSM's 94% negative coverage of the President.
What puzzles me about Trump haters? Why don't they attack substantial factual issues where Trump fails? For example-
Trump seems to ignore Saudi's slaughter of Yemen's people. Could it be because the USA sells billions of dollars of weapons to Saudi Arabia. Could it be because Trump wants the Saudi's to pump more oil in order
to keep the price of oil low? Will Trump delve into the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi?
The tariff war is risky. Unless he gets more countries behind him, the Chinese will manipulate sales, find partners. Steel tariffs are totally stupid and will lead to loss of jobs. The US does not make all grades of steel, such as high nickel. The Europeans do, and machinery makers here are now paying the tariff.
The economy is largely not the president's doing. But reckless spending (tax cuts) will lead to mammoth debt. Has already. Obama needed the debt to bail out of mess Bush left. He could have let a lot of banks fail, that would have been OK. Now we subsidized them. Automakers needed the bail. So we got debt.
US is built on immigration and Trump has put a stop to growth when we can't hire all the techical people we need. There are lots of industry/engineering jobs that need college degrees but there is a shortage of Americans. Americans want to be doctors lawyers and businessmen, not chemical engineers. Those come from India. Some are Muslims. Etc etc.
Trump has done very little, just shuffled things around. Alienating Europe, a huge market, is a stupid thing.
Tariff War? Underreported by MSM, the EU caved to Trump's tariff's in July and signed a new trade deal. Recently Mexico and Canada capitulated and signed a deal. 10 days ago American markets hit all time highs. Meanwhile, China's market crashed and currently hovers at 2014 levels.
Before the 2016 elections, most pundits and media predicted the stock market, job market, and economy would tank under Trump. However the Black and Hispanic unemployment rate is at record all time lows. And the GNP is at 4.2 and climbing. May hit 5.0% by end of year.
Debt? Since Trump's inauguration, the National dept. has climbed 1.65 Trillion dollars. During the same amount of time during Obama's presidency, the National dept. climbed 2.99 Trillion dollars. And doesn't account for inflation...if you get my meaning.
Obamas National Debt from Inauguration till Oct 11, 2010-
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