The American Politics Thread

But you'll believe anything from some Nazi blogger in Iowa as long as you have your tinfoil hat on, correct? You choose to disbelieve organizations that have numerous reporters and researchers, but some unemployed bum typing away in his mother's basement has the means at his disposal to check every reported incident. What a fraud you are. Easily manipulated. 

omphaloskepsis wrote: So Dark Elf...you like Jason Kessler and believe everything he says.  I think Kessler is a liar.  Kessler was active with Occupy up through November 5th of 2016.  He started his White Group in Jan 2017.  Can you name 3 members of his group.  You can't because its a Shell Racist group with paid protester.    But since you defend Kessler Elf maybe you can contact him and join his club.

I despise Kessler. As I mentioned before, he joined your white supremacist movement because he could be somebody, because you and your ilk will follow dung in a septic clean-out truck if you are told it will "Make 'Merica Grate Agin". Because he lives in his mom's basement like most of your leaders. This loser only graduated college in 2009. He's been a dishwasher, truck driver and handyman (a job resume of your run-of-the-mill Nazi). Yet you want to cast him as some mastermind of a grand scheme to infiltrate the White Supremacist movement of Nazis and KKKers..... just so Nazis and KKKers could march on Charlottesville. So, what you're saying is that these Nazis and KKKers were so stupid that they followed a plant to do what they would naturally do anyway? What exactly was the plan there, Bubba? Because rational thinking people saw Nazis beating up African Americans, and another Nazi murdered a young woman by driving a car into a crowd of protesters. The Nazis have been arrested and charged. None of these "fine people" were anything but hate-mongering, deluded white supremacists.

Kessler attended one Occupy Wall Street demonstration, then left because they were too liberal. He didn't organize it, he didn't belong to it, and everything I've seen indicates that is fact.  He also never worked for Obama as you lied about previously.

omphaloskepsis wrote: The Left supports Kessler.  The ACLU defended him. Suddenly Kessler's first pro right Trump tweet occurred on Nov. 6 2016.  Before that?  Radical democrat, pro gun control.   Go read Kessler's earlier tweets.   All the famous folks on the Right know Kessler works for the Left to start violence with paid protesters and make it look like  KKK are everywhere.  Nationwide, there are still an estimated 3,000 Klan members and unaffiliated people who "identify with Klan ideology," according to the ADL. Membership, though, remains spread across dozens of groups. The largest Klans reportedly don't have more than 50 to 100 active members, and most have fewer than 25.     The media makes it sound like the KKK has millions of followers.

When a white supremacist has been outed, they spend their time formulating conspiracies in order to hide their real disgusting selves. Enlarging and emboldening print does not somehow hide who you really are.

You are bound and determined to protect the REAL Nazis and KKK. Because you support the REAL Nazis and KKK, and some douchebag like Kessler interrupting your White Panther Party is wrecking your supremacist buzz. You claim that you don't support white nationalism, but you spend countless paragraphs defending them. Why is that? I am sure you deny the Holocaust as a Jewish fabrication as well. Go on, just admit it. Then tell us how the earth is really flat and that the moon landing was actually an elaborate hoax by NASA that took place on some movie set in New Mexico. 

The issue is that membership to these terrorist organizations is limited because Facebook and other sites make it simple to find these Neanderthals, particularly after the Charlottesville tiki torch fiasco got several of your buddies arrested and fired from their jobs. But they are there. And there were more than "3000" marchers at Charlottesville spouting Nazi rhetoric. 

Also, as I stated factually previously, Nazis and White Supremacists are running for congress and getting votes. They are all running as Republicans. They are in Illinois (Arthur Jones), North Carolina (Russell Walker), Virginia (Corey Stewart), California (Patrick Little), to name a few. Patrick Little of California is running second in polls to Diane Feinstein. Let me repeat, he is running second in the polls in California. We are not talking about a few thousand people scattered across the states, we are talking about 46% of Repbulicans supporting an avowed racist and anti-semite in California. Out of his own mouth and whose own platform calls for “limiting representation of Jews in the government” and making it U.S. policy that the Holocaust “is a Jewish war atrocity propaganda hoax that never happened.” 

And this is all due to Trump. No one else has promoted this type of hatred but Trump, which is why Nazis are running as Republicans. So you aren't fooling anyone with your finger pointing and whataboutisms and crackpot conspiracies. You are what you are, and it's plain by reading the offal you disembogue.

omphaloskepsis wrote: Since you hate Trump you must love WAR because Trump hasn't started a new war like the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama started war    Bottom line- I hate WAR and love Peace.   I don't care if the President is Democrat, Republican, or an Elf...as long as the President doesn't start wars then I'll vote the him/her/elf.

So, Trump has not ordered anything bombed? Has he brought all the troops home? Last I checked, there were still troops in Afghanistan dying. Last time I checked Trump has threatened war against several countries. Last time I checked, Trump wanted to waste several million dollars just so he could have a military parade like every Third World dictator. Last time I checked, Trump signed a $717 billion military budget. Last time I checked, Trump put generals in charge of nearly every key position in the White House. Trump has weakened our alliances and strengthened our enemies (or did you not notice Russia is now supplying India with military equipment?). Speaking of strenghtening our enemies....

omphaloskepsis wrote: What about North Korea?  Has there ever been a time in the last 60 years were American's relationship with North Korea was better?  More peaceful?   I love peace.    Do you love war Dark Elf?  What's your deal?  Are you a fascist or communist Dark Elf?   I know what you hate Elf.  What do you like?  Communism?

Yes, what about North Korea? Kim Jon Un played Trump like a cheap fiddle. North Korea still has their nuclear weapons and will not surrender them. Kim Jong Un is still starving his country. By playing Trump, Kim Jong Un got Trump to suspend U.S. military exercises in South Korea (which only reduces our readiness and strengthens North Korea,  per several generals). He is ignoring the U.S. completely and dealing with South Korea directly. Your boy got played, just like Putin is playing him. 

omphaloskepsis wrote: Trump saved my family thousands of dollars by lowering taxes and ending the Obamacare Mandate.  I'll bet Dark Elf wants America's economy to fail so he can crow like a rooster and bash Trump.  Trump helps folks of all color.   Lowest unemployment ever for Blacks and Hispanics.  Lowest unemployment for women since 1953.  Wages rising.  Bonuses galore.

You've been caught again. Just another lie. No one in the United States has saved any money whatsoever by Trump and the Republicans trying to end Obamacare. None. Healthcare has risen for EVERYONE due to Republicans trying to screw people out of health benefits. Trump and his Republican Gollums have not done anything to fix healthcare, they have made it worse. Because they would prefer to give the rich billions of dollars in tax cuts. You claim "your family" saved thousands. Previously you mentioned $3000. Trump and his family will make BILLIONS in both the tax cuts and loss of inheritance tax. You are a pawn. 

Not even a dead squirrel, having done nothing but decompose, could screw up the economy left by Obama and his 75 consecutive months of job growth. Trump could literally have eaten cheeseburgers in bed and the economy would be fine. But now billions are going to fund farmers who are losing money because of Trump's stupid tariffs. Ford is losing a billion dollars because of Trump's stupid tariffs. Harley and Carrier are losing money and moving their production out of the country. Steelworkers are planning to strike because the corporations got billions in tax cuts but no raises for the workers. There have been major drops in the stock exchange. People can't get affordable housing because every study shows that any wage increase has been offset by rising inflation, healthcare costs and prices at the supermarket.     

omphaloskepsis wrote: No Russian collusion.  Trump was right...His campaign was spied on by FBI.  Americans votes are sacred and FBI and DOJ and several Obama folks plotted to undo a Peaceful transfer of Power.    That's very uncool.

Every Intelligence agency reported Russians worked to get Trump elected through hacking and manipulating dupes like you (you still are parroting some of the themes Russians used back in 2016). This is a fact. The Mueller Investigation has indicted the Russian government in attacking the 2016 U.S. election. This is a fact. Several of Trump's direct reports, associates and family members were communicating with Russians during the election. This is a fact. Trump himself has made millions from Russian oligarchs. This is a fact. 

I'll wait to get the findings of the Mueller report and get the facts.