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Man With Hat 
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 Posted: December 28 2018 at 13:36 |
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lol...no.
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nateliv
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Posted: December 28 2018 at 13:14 |
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I'm hoping that a Modern Times reissue is coming soon.
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grantman
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Posted: December 28 2018 at 07:00 |
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i also believe there was some controversy ,concerning YEAR OF THE CAT about album sales ,i can remember in Canada a,when i went into a department store there was a display with year of the cat ,posters,flyers and such when it was released, the controversy had to do album sales or promotions
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Posted: December 28 2018 at 05:58 |
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Thanks did not know that about the drumming, maybe i just didnt look into ,i only have jethro tulls crest of a knave to compare, cdS i have do not contain liner notes in fact none of my collection ,especially in canada do not have liner notes ,i can look stuff up on computer, but most of time i rather not is ,at times becomes deflating ,i tend to trust my instincts ,which at times can be very wrong it,s all subjective, big fan of the masterwork year of the cat best song FOR MYSELF is Broadway hotel, i just need to do more research, before posting happy new year
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richardh
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Posted: December 28 2018 at 01:40 |
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This album has nothing in common with eighties Genesis and Tull. Sonically yes probably could be better although it actually sounds good to me. The very later Al Stewart albums are a bit pointless and empty so god knows who posts ratings on that site, although does mean I can safely ignore it!
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richardh
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Posted: December 28 2018 at 01:36 |
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^ WOW 'drum machine' really??! Actually the great session drummer Vinnie Coulaiuta played on the album (except Helen and Cassandra which was Steve Chapman) . Style wise Drums could be a little stiff in the eighties but the drumming on this album is plenty fluid enough for me. I love his drumming on Where Are They Now especially, an absolute classic Al Stewart track. Also Tim Renwick was involved and Tori Amos was one of the three backing singers. |
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grantman
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Posted: December 27 2018 at 16:00 |
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Favorite song on last days of the century toss up between Josephine baker and red toupee not a fan of al using a drum machine, but i guess everybody was back then
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Sean Trane
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Posted: December 27 2018 at 03:33 |
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Your reply drew my attention... Yes,
I'm not aware of AS' post-70's works, so I'm currently listening to
that album on YT >> not very impressed by the 80's sonics, but
there's been much worse done: Tull, Yes and Genesis... It rates as his
worst album on RYM , BTW However,
the Parsons-era in AS' career I'm thinking of is from the Year of The
Cat and Time Passages (those were his Hypgnosis days as well) and that
means his commercial heydays (often on the FM radio airwaves) ============== BTW,
for years, I searched for that delightful Eagles tracks called On The
Border, and finding that the band's version was a piece of crap... Until
about 10 years ago, I finally understood it was Al Stewart's song I
loved. Silly me   ============= I also agree that qualifying AS as pop singer is a lack of respect... He's much worthier than that.  And
I agree with Ken: in some ways, Chris DeBurgh took much inspiration fom
AS, especially in his "proggier" (lack of better word as I write)
moments. Edited by Sean Trane - March 25 2025 at 11:52 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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richardh
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Posted: December 27 2018 at 00:47 |
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I am constantly surprised that people have not heard The Last Days Of The Century . One of my favourite eighties albums. Best Al Stewart album imo. Quite a lot of people on that album including a young Tori Amos. The Alan Parsons influence is not a biggie really. The introduction of Peter White to his band was the most important change. Great guitarist who also helped Al massively on the arrangement side of his music. After their partnership ( it was that) ended in the 90's it was a struggle for Al I believe to come up with anything interesting sadly.
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he may not be prog but to label him pop does a disservice to his credentials as a folk artist. There are few if any more authentic students of history than Al Stewart. His story songs are hardly the stuff of pop. I will concede that his most successful albums crossed over into pop, but the folk roots were always there and generally easy to discern
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LAM-SGC
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Posted: December 26 2018 at 18:06 |
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pop singer/songwriter.
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Posted: December 26 2018 at 13:46 |
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Everybody can be "prog-related". I hear his name and I don't associate anything he has recorded as prog
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kenethlevine
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Posted: December 26 2018 at 08:37 |
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love Al Stewart, seen him live in the distant past and in recent years but he is borderline as far as prog folk goes. Like I have said before, so many artists were somewhat prog in the 1970s, since prog was a widespread genre then. Serious artists would have at least dabbled in it, even Elton John and Chris De Burgh for instance.
Stewart's Parsons produced albums were the most coherent and certainly had prog elements, like the brilliant "One Stage Before" from Year of the Cat and the hauntingly beautiful "Life in Dark Water" from Time Passages. But I don't see him as more than peripherally prog nor as having had a prog phase.
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cemego
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Posted: December 26 2018 at 00:08 |
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I thought Al stewart and robert fripp shared the same guitar teacher. Also Stewart's best albums were produced by alan parsons.
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listen to streaming stuff! no commercials!
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Posted: December 25 2018 at 08:20 |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: December 25 2018 at 04:12 |
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The PF team weighed him a couple of times.... Yes, one or two of his albums are worthy of PA's PF entry (Love Chronicles and PP&F), but it's really borderline (not aware of what he's done since the early 80's, though) |
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Posted: December 25 2018 at 02:31 |
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btw did you know that Al grew up in the same place as Bob Fripp (Wimbourne , Dorset, England) and even had guitar lessons from him?
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richardh
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Posted: December 25 2018 at 02:28 |
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This will get deleted as all threads of this type do so not a lot of point replying but hey ho YES . I've been a fan for a while. Past ,Present and Future would be Prog Folk Last Days of The Century and Year Of The Cat are Crossover BUT he's been blocked before so it's not happening. |
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Posted: December 24 2018 at 23:52 |
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Probably the prog folk category. Love Chronicles might help there...
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Posted: December 24 2018 at 22:34 |
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Progish. Just a smidgen. Depends on the album.
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