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Poll Question: Which of these do you like the most
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Walkscore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2019 at 18:38
Mike Oldfield's Ommadawn is among the very best albums ever, and his early albums are truly revolutionary. Very distinct guitarist. I should probably re-listen to the Hanson albums, and I haven't heard all of them, so it is a bit of an unfair competition.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2019 at 00:09
Mike. But Bo has a special place since he has been the only Swede in my collection for almost 40 years.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2019 at 00:17
Can't really vote as I only know Mike Oldfield

However putting anyone other than maybe Vangelis up against Mike Oldfield is pointless imo. To me this is just an attempt to make the other guy look good by putting him in the same poll. Oldifeld not only redefined instrumental music as we know it but pretty much turned Richard Branson into a multi millionaire. And that was with his 10th best album ( in my estimation anyway)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2019 at 01:55
^that's just like, your opinion, man. In terms of quantity you're correct of course and Vangelis would be a better-or fairer match. I've been listening to Bo Hanssons quartet of relevant albums exclusively since this poll (and documentary). As much as Mike Oldfield turned Richard Branson into a multimillionaire (great argument btw) his music doesn’t have the emotional impact on me like our swedish hermit's 70's discography does. So I'm not voting for the underdog here because he's the underdog.

I also prefer Nick Drake's three albums over everything I've heard by Mike. And altohugh there's really no similarities, I suspect that something similar comes across from their music that just speaks to me (way) more.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2019 at 11:37
The best opinions are well-informed opinions.

Saying "To me this is just an attempt to make the other guy look good by putting him in the same poll" seems a very uncharitable outlook or interpretation of intent to me. As you don't even know "Bo Hanson", making such an assumption seems particularly problematic. Perhaps Icarium will comment on his intent (better to ask directly than us trying to figure out his motivations). But I don't think we need to, he already said "Two legendary electronic rock/psychadelia, instrumentalist, legends. And Eccentric fellows whom share with the listeners fantastical tales of wonder and awe." And that's good enough for me (which doesn't mean that I wouldn't add to it or post my own thoughts).

With me, I have done polls which pair up lesser known artists with better known ones hoping to give some exposure to a lesser-known one that I care about (well, usually when I do polls its about sharing my passions, gaining exposure for certain artists. films etc. and looking for discussion.

Personally, I love Bo Hansson, and am not a big fan of Mike Oldfield (and Nick Drake would still get my vote if he were in this poll). This has nothing to with which "artist" is objectively better, only which made music that is better for me, or speaks to me more. By the way, many similarities can be drawn between Mike Oldfield's music and that of Bo Hansson, both have made music of the Progressive Rock, Symphonic Prog persuasion with a folk music influence, both have made lush and instrumental music with, I'd say, cinematic qualities, both delved into pop music in the 80s. Both are talented multi-instrumentalist composers who had primarily played the guitar, but also play keyboards, percussion.... We can all find patterns as we are pattern-seeking animals, but to me this poll is not some senseless pairing that should be reduced to merely an attempt to make the other look good. And again, I find such thinking strange when one doesn't even know one of the artists, and I don;t like how it makes assumptions about how another is thinking (we aren't mind-readers, or even good psychologists for the most part, and should be careful not to inflict our biases on others, and of course we should be self-aware enough to recognise our biases and try to understand other perspectives).

I think Icarium expressed his reasons for doing this poll well, and drawing certain other assumptions seems both uncharitable and unwise. Maybe I'm just not understanding where you are coming from, Richard, or the nuances of your thesis.

By the way, I don't think that popularity equals quality, and Branson's wealth is not relevant in my estimation of the worth of the music as art (as to commerce/ industry, well that's another issue) but the question is merely "Which of these do you like the most?" Kudos to you for recognising that it would be unfair to vote without being familiar with both. I find it strange that some people vote without knowing both choices in many polls with but two options -- for me, I'd rather look into the music of, and look into info about, the one I don't know if I choose to take part in the poll and discussion so as to better inform my opinions as time and will permits.

Edited by Logan - April 09 2019 at 11:46
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Icarium Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2019 at 14:38
I made this poll becouse Vangelis vs Oldfield was done many times. Also with Jarre and Morricone. And i felt Hansson is equal the legend and mythical status he deserves more exposion on PA.

He is one very special artist in prog hemispheres for having a very individual, personalised and dare i say, continental approach to prog. in same waine as Oldfield stands out in the english prog realm, Bo does stand out in both Swedish and Nordic scene prog. Though he still have soundscape which also has a nordic feel, it is more to it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2019 at 00:14
yep I was being an arse admittedly and got called out so fair enough.

I have added a couple of Bo Hansson albums to my listening (both from early seventies so those are the good ones I presume) and my only initial thought is that musically they have no common ground with Oldfield. So its a bit Apples and Oranges really and I expect that people are picking on grounds of taste which is the point I guess.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2019 at 01:24
^That's cool! I think most of his music could could be up your alley. Personally I'm as fond of the two next: Mellanväsen/Attic Thoughts and El-Ahrairah/Music Inspired By Watership Down (if you look for the latter, make sure you get a version including the "Migration Suite").

-and btw: I'd highly reccomend the late 70's documentary that Mascodagama shared on the previous page. Less than half an hour long, nicely done and a perfect introduction to his universe.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote miamiscot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2019 at 09:45
No 'both" option. Bummer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2019 at 10:41
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

but pretty much turned Richard Branson into a multi millionaire.

Maybe if we ask Oldfield himself that may be the achievement that he actually regrets most, and based on this he might give his vote to Hansson? Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2019 at 22:33
Originally posted by progmatic progmatic wrote:

Hard to compare because Hansson only had four albums (although they were all great). Oldfield has more albums but not all are good. If I compare Oldfield's best four albums to Hansson's quartet, Oldfield gets my nod.
Good summary. Some of Mike Oldfield's albums don't go anywhere. Maybe they just needed some tidying up which they would have got had he been one member of a band throwing round musical ideas to the others in the band.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rednight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2019 at 10:40
The late, great Hansson for those four instrumental albums back in the day. I tend to find Oldfield spotty here and there. Tubular Bells is one such example (and vastly overrated).
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Bo Hansson.

They had a lot in common, both musically and otherwise. Perhaps the comparison would be best made concerning only their 70's albums. So... Both multi-instrumentalists, playing mainly instrumental music, experimental and psychedelic to some extent. In some ways similar styles, in some ways not. Unique styles, each hard to label and categorize. The closest comparison to Mike Oldfield is Bo Hansson, imo. And yet they have very different styles.

Hansson generally has a lot more rhythm and groove, coming from a jazz kind of environment. Oldfield has a more rigid composition style, like from an orchestral environment. Each have pros and cons respectively, Oldfield is more demanding to listen to, in part because of the lacking rhythm. His albums, or at least their parts, demand a full listen (or several) to each, to fully appreciate them. Of course, the listener is rewarded, and Oldfield reaches quite some intensity from a long build-up on Ommadawn that Hansson never reached. But it's demanding of the listener. Which could also be said of Hanssons work if you want to fully appreciate it, but his music is more easily accessible at first listen for most people, mainly because of his "flow" and rhythm.

Hansson had already released Sagan Om Ringen and Ur Trollkarlens Hatt when Tubular Bells was released. So, one can only speculate how much, if any, influence these may have had on Oldfield.


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there was a time when I would have said Mike Oldfield, but after the 27th version of "Tubular Bells"...


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2019 at 14:00
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

there was a time when I would have said Mike Oldfield, but after the 27th version of "Tubular Bells"...
 

I just ignore those. 

OTOH, Return to Ommadawn is good.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2019 at 15:00
Waiting.....(from Attic Thoughts) is Bo Hansson at his best !!
I liked Oldfield when he was in Kevin Ayers’ band, the solo albums I’ve heard of his do nothing for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maxter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2019 at 17:56
Ommadawn is a great album, Oldfields best imo. Amarok was originally intended to be the sequel, but turned out too different. Which is a good thing, and Amarok stands its own ground as one of Oldfields better albums.

Return to Ommadawn, however... just gives me this feeling... like when you're embarrassed on someone elses behalf, when they humiliate themselves and you just want to look away/disappear, out of sympathetic shame.

Kind of like how I feel for this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjHVgWALeqs
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2019 at 19:27
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

there was a time when I would have said Mike Oldfield, but after the 27th version of "Tubular Bells"...
 

I just ignore those. 

OTOH, Return to Ommadawn is good.

Yep, a very good listen indeed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2019 at 21:06
Originally posted by maxter maxter wrote:

Ommadawn is a great album, Oldfields best imo. Amarok was originally intended to be the sequel, but turned out too different. Which is a good thing, and Amarok stands its own ground as one of Oldfields better albums.

Return to Ommadawn, however... just gives me this feeling... like when you're embarrassed on someone elses behalf, when they humiliate themselves and you just want to look away/disappear, out of sympathetic shame.

Kind of like how I feel for this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjHVgWALeqs


I might agree about Tubular Bells 2 being a sort of embarassment compared to the first album... but I found Return to Ommadawn really brilliant, and a great comeback for him to his early classic sound in a way very few artists manage to do so effectivley.
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