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    Posted: June 01 2019 at 12:40
I'd love some recommendations of ECM recordings from the crowd here.  I prefer the more melodic side of the label's music, as opposed to the more abstract stuff.

I'm already very familiar with (and love) Steve Tibbetts, Eberhard Weber, Keith Jarrett, Oregon, Ralph Towner, Nils Petter Molvaer, and Pat Metheny.

A year or so ago, someone on this forum made a post about Paul Bley's "Open, To Love" - and I was very impressed with that one, such a phenomenal, beautiful recording.

On the other hand, my wife and I went to see the Danish String Quartet last year, and I bought "Thomas Ades | Per Norgard | Hans Abrahamsen," and I find it almost un-listenable, it's just too abstract for me.

Thanks in advance...
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Jan Garbarek- it's ok to listen to the grey voice
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Here's a slow burner for you:



Stick with it!
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Ten wondrous hyper to semi-melodic ECM-releases:

Bennie Maupin - The Jewel in the Lotus
Terje Rypdal - Whenever I Seem to Be Far Away
Chick Corea - Return to Forever
Jan Garbarek - Bobo Stenson Quartet - Witchi-Tai-To
Steve Kuhn - Trance
Michael Naura - Vanessa
Paul Motian - Tribute
Dave Liebman - Lookout Farm
Barre Phillips ‎– Three Day Moon
John Abercrombie, Dave Holland & Jack DeJohnette - Gateway

I could recomend much more but all these should do the trick
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Awesome, thanks for the recommendations!  I will check these all out - if any really do it for me, I'll let you know.  Thanks again!
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If that's not enough for you there are lists on the "rate your music" site also. Just search for "best ECM" or something like that. 
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Corea : Return to Forever, Light as a feather.
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Terje Rypdal-Terje Rypdal and What Comes After

Eberhard Weber-The Colours Of Chloe

Manfred Schoof Quintet Resonance
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Terje Rypdal-Terje Rypdal and What Comes After
Those are both fantastic too
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Love everything I have ever heard in the label, but Surman, Krog, Storaas, Rypdal's Nordic Quartet is by far my favorite.





A couple others I dig.
Ketil Bjørnstad- Water stories



Ralph Towner - Lost and Found

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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Here's a slow burner for you:

Terje Rypdal

Stick with it!

And even more special in my book, is his album with David Darling ... EOS.

Beware the first cut ... you've been warned. But the rest is the prettiest chamber music on electric guitar that you will never hear anyone else do, even if Jeff Beck copied the style some many years later!

I recommend EGBERTO GISMONTI, and just about anything in the early days ... Solo, Sol do Meio Dia, Danca das Cabecas, Magico, Sanfona .... for some really tasty material. Special in this list is No Caipira, which is more classical, but is a mix of intense and far out stuff ... that I seriously doubt most progressive listeners can handle ... I call it a Brazilian Stravinsky and then some on that one ... and it's weird to me that he never did any more of that, but I think that a lot of people were going ... wtf is all that? But it is phenomenal and I would love to use it on a stage or film ... it's truly special!

Jan Garbarek is an acquired taste. In the early days, it is probably totally "abstract" (your word I think), but in the experimental phase there is some far out stuff ... get EVENTYR. His two albums with Egberto Gismonti are magnificent ... truly beautiful and Charlie Haden is with them.

There are a lot of folks there that belong in the special category ... even Keith Jarrett in his early periods are worth the attention (the Koln album specially), though there is a side of things here that many folks do not like about Keith ... but in general, he's very enjoyable, but not for everyone. 

You gotta remember one thing ... ECM is not about a "band" and .... errrrrr .... you know ... "songs". It's a lot more about the music, than the crap that we are being given every day! So make sure that you adjust your listening style so that you do not get disappointed. A lot of folks, even here, would consider a lot of this stuff just "filler" and "too much improvisation" ... as if it were all some kind of meaningless musical exercise ... because it ain't composed! (... how British of you ... says Pete to Dud!)


Edited by moshkito - June 05 2019 at 07:34
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Hi,

Slightly off topic, but on topic ... years ago I heard something, that seemed to be a part of the ECM fold, however I have never found it ... it was a 20 minute piece, a symphony it seemed like, for harmonica or chromatic harp. I have never found this, and wondered who it was but it sure smelled, smiled and appeared to be something that ECM would definitely do, and had done before for several folks ... Garbarek had a Symphony done for him by Jarrett and probably other (and better!) examples.

It wasn't Norton Buffalo, or Toots Thielmans, btw ... both of which did smaller pieces of music and never did something that was very classical in its context and design. Toots, was also more related to jazz'y stuff that was well known and received ... 

If anyone has a "lead" on this ... I would appreciate it ... I can not be totally sure but it seems the name could have been "russell", but I have never found anything with first or last name in that vein.
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Originally posted by ProfPanglos ProfPanglos wrote:

A year or so ago, someone on this forum made a post about Paul Bley's "Open, To Love" - and I was very impressed with that one, such a phenomenal, beautiful recording.
How could I forget this stunning 1970-album (titled Paul Bley with Gary Peacock)


I'm a big fan. I'd say any Paul Bley-album up to the one mentioned above is wonderful: Footloose, Touching, Closer, Ramblin', Blood, Mr Joy + lastly Barrage which is more of a standard (as in wild) free jazz-quintet and less of his "signature" sound if you're ok with that (none of them on ECM though)


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You may find Meredith Monk too "abstract" but I am a big fan of hers, and who knows, maybe against the odds you get her.

Markus Stockhausen is cool, too.



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They will bury me with that one

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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

They will bury me with that one

(David Darling)


Nahhhh ... but he has done a lot of nice things ... including two albums with Carlos Nakai, where the pieces of music that stand out the best are the ones that he features the most! It helped take some of this stuff off "new age", and make it a bit more serious music for me.

I have not kept up with him, but will look for a couple more of his albums. He has never disappointed for me.

The only "sad thing" for me, is that the more I listen to this stuff on ECM, the more I want to get away from the "Progressive" mold of things ... I'm just not into "form" or "style", and more often than not, hearing special, and different things is what MUSIC is all about for me. Thus, a lot of my cynical comments about some of the music, when it is ... just another song, the same as the last song!
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ECM blows hot & cold for me....
The label was exciting in the 70's but by the mid-80's, it became a bit synonym of boring ambient or new-age stuff ... Of course most of it is not, but it's often too quiet for my tastes 
 
 
Copy/paste from an ancient JMA post
 
In a somawhat chronoligical and preferrence order
Chick Corea - Return To Forever
Mal Waldron - The Call
Terje Rypdal - Whenever I seem To Be So Far Away  & What Comes After
Julian Priester & Pepo Mtoto - Love, Love
Bernie Maupin - The Jewel In The Lotus
Keith Jarrett - The Koln Concert
Azimuth - Departure
John Surman/John Warren - The Brass Project
 
 
Worth a mention (but not that I would one day own them)
Metheny's New Chateauqua, Offramp  and American Garage
Abercrombie's Gateway series
 
 
I still have to explore (after that I think, I'll have to give it a rest)
Kenny Wheeler's Music For Large Ensemble (90) and Long Time Ago (98)
Miroslav Vitous's The Journey (82) and Universal Syncopations (03)
John Surman Stranger Than Fiction (93) and Adventure Playground (91)
The Music Improvisation Company 's ST album with Jamie Muir (70)
Globe Unity Improvisation's Compositions and Improvisations (79 & 77)
Jan Garbarek's Sart (71) Afric Pepperbird (72) and Places (77)
Steve Khun's Trance (74)
Dave Holland Quintet's Jumping In and Shades Of Time (83 & 84)
Holland/Phillips's Music For Two Basses (71)
Bill Connors - Of Mist And Meting (78)
Elton Dean - Boundaries (80)
Gary Burton Quintet w Eberhard Weber - Rong, Dream So Real and Passengers (74 to 76)
 
 
 


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