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Clegg played one of the best live concerts of all my life. The eorld has lost a,great performer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2019 at 15:03
^ yup, me too.  if the music wasn't enough (which it was), the dancing and costumes were part of the whole experience.  To me the Juluka albums and the first Savuka album are all classics, with all his other albums having much to recommend them
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RiP Rutger Hauer
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 12:30
oh man.... that one hurts... 
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sure there will be a thread for him..  and will be for one reason. A great actor..  many are.. but few dominated a movie so many adore so deeply.. and none had a scene quite like this.  Amazing.. amazing.. amazing..


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He also playes a canibal priest in Sin City
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One of the best scenes of "Valerian":
(Rutger Hauer as world president at 3:00)  R.I.P.Cry

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 13:29
Shocking news indeed. A big name here for some 50 years. RIP.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

RiP Rutger Hauer

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

sure there will be a thread for him..  and will be for one reason. A great actor..  many are.. but few dominated a movie so many adore so deeply.. and none had a scene quite like this.  Amazing.. amazing.. amazing..


 


RIP Rutger Hauer. :( 

Likeable a lot but often deadly on screen, playing the villain. Will miss him 
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I personally think "Blade Runner" is overrated because it did not really capture the spirit of "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", but that scene in the end with him is great. R.I.P.

by the way: I'd like to see a director tackle "Ubik" or "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch"


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 19:17
oh come on Jean.. we know you love that author guy.. that book had nothing that touched the heart and soul like that movie.. or especially the scene. 

Thinking is great.. and that is what books are for... but feeling.. really feeling is quite something else. That scene touched something I think we all feel at an instinctual level and captured it beutifully in conjunction with the Vangelis backing..  

overrated..  my f**king ass LOL
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

oh come on Jean.. we know you love that author guy.. that book had nothing that touched the heart and soul like that movie.. or especially the scene. 

Thinking is great.. and that is what books are for... but feeling.. really feeling is quite something else. That scene touched something I think we all feel at an instinctual level and captured it beutifully in conjunction with the Vangelis backing..  

overrated..  my f**king ass LOL

I did say I liked the end. but the rest of the movie is by far not that good, especially the usual action schlock that just had to be in there for American audiences


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 19:53
we do love our violence and I know I wasn't the only kid that decided to pull a Brion James and think it was a cool thing to do to muttter 'time to die' to the pencil necked geek Rush fan in your class and intentionally miss his face with your first but hoping to impress the cute blond whose sweater was just filling out and having her see your hand through the trash container.. hell yeah... was too much to hope that steam would suddenly errupt forth..


ahhh.. being a kid once ruled...  thanks Hollywood


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 20:01
seriously though.. you are treadiing on holy ground with that movie. We didn't study the book in college.. we did the movie and that is saying something as to what it said on a very deep level... but I suppose I can understand. You love Dick .. I love Martin.  I had the same reaction to the G.O.T TV series (OVERRATED CRAP!!!) which I was militantly ANTI for completely f**king up the depth,complexity, and very valid socio-political points, to say nothing of the characters themselvles, that Martin's books were making and still creating.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 20:18
European movies have a lot less action than American ones, which is one of the reasons why I prefer them.

it is not that I am completely opposed to action; if the story calls for it at a certain point, fine. but in "Blade Runner" the action was uncalled for.

living in Germany, or generally in Europe, definitely changes an American. there was a time when I thought different of these matters


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 24 2019 at 20:46
two things you touch on.. both rather facinating..  you were born here. Assume you spent enough time here to know just what our society is and is about. We are a violent country, it is interwoven in our history and deeply ingrained in our culture.  I remember some years back, it was either you or Friede banged on me pretty hard for finding the military side of history so interesting as ppposed to 'pure ivory tower history which I am well versed in as it but is not what simulates me.  We were boys once, we are men now. That is something that many here are brought up in, my family has served in every conflict since they came to this country and something I felt later I must do as well. Agree or not with the premise of the conflict itself.  My father was a gun toting gun loving veteran who trained me at an early age how to shoot.. and weapons were not toys.. but meant to do one thing.  A lesson well learned. Anyhow.. that is another topic for another day.

as far as the movie and its violence.  Unnecessary?   Depends. Of course it wasn't necessary per se. But would it have been the fiilm so beloved and respected without it?  I don't know. But one could argue and I would that what made the themes OF that movie Jean so powerful, thought provoking and so heart rendering were its displays of violence and of death. Of course you are talking to a Peckinpah fanatic here who has long believed there is a particular art.. and beauty to death and violence and often nothing is better to use to drive home important moral lessons or stimulate intellectual thought.
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...like tears in the rain...
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RIP David Berman of the Silver Jews and Purple Mountains.
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Toni Morrison, writer, Nobel prize 1993 (and others - Pulitzer, etc) - RIP
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Prayers up for both Morrison and Berman, the latter's loss feels so sudden, and I'm feeling crushed today with them gone.
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