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friso
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Just curious
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I'm guitarist and songwriter for the prog-related band Mother Bass. Find us at http://www.motherbass.com. I also enter stages throughout the Netherlands performing my poetry.
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Cristi
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aren't all the other bands imitating Magma?
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friso
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You could also argue that all zeuhl bands sound like modern classical music played with pop-group instrumentation.
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I'm guitarist and songwriter for the prog-related band Mother Bass. Find us at http://www.motherbass.com. I also enter stages throughout the Netherlands performing my poetry.
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BrufordFreak
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Or that all zeuhl bands sound like modern post-spiritual-awakening-John-Coltrane spin-offs playing with pop group instrumentation!
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BrufordFreak
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I cannot agree that all "Zeuhl" bands are imitating Magma. Those that left to form their own bands had ideas that were different and many modern artists have been inspired by the "Zeuhl" sound but embellish or frame it with or within other styles, e.g. Universal Totem Orchestra, All Traps on Earth, Setna, Laurent Thibault, Patrick Gauthier, Zao, Yochk'o Seffer, Bondage Fruit, Koenji Hyakkei, Happy Family, Ruins, and Shub-Niggurath--they all have, to my ears, a distinctive sound or structure that makes them different from those of Magma.
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Drew Fisher
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Barbu
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Chinese Zeuhl
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octopus-4
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I like Universal Totem Orchestra a lot.
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Man With Hat
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Magma
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Manuel
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Agreed.
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Polymorphia
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The number of other Zeuhl albums period is probably close to the number of albums in Magma's discography. I like quite a few of those albums, some of them more than Magma, but were I to choose Magma's discography, I think I would be generally left with a more solid set of releases.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Nailed it, as much as I love Magma I'd miss Setna, Laurent Thibault, Patrick Gauthier, Zao, Yochk'o Seffer, Bondage Fruit, Koenji Hyakkei, Happy Family, Ruins, Shub-Niggurath, Dun, Corima, Combat Astronomy, Eskaton, Guapo, Rhun, Scherzoo, Unit Wail, Vak, Weidorje, Xing Sa more.
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Ian
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YESESIS
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I don't know any of these other Zeuhl deals except Magma so I guess I won't vote. But I can't imagine that all of them put together could be as good as MDK.. or other great Magma albums.
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socrates17
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I interpreted the 2nd option to mean all other Zeuhl groups excluding Magma. I.e., I could listen to Shub-Niggurath to my heart's content, but was forbidden from listening to MDK. That is obviously an untenable position, so I had to go with the 1st option. But that doesn't meant that I ONLY like Magma. I like a lot of other Zeuhl bands too, just not as much. Instructions should have been clearer.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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We have 72 non-Magma Zeuhl bands on the site so I'd suggest this is a little bit off. Even if I include the live albums Magma 'only' have 27.
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Ian
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Mortte
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Only Magma.
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Magma
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Donovan Punch - The Peasants of Arbatox vs Infinity - check me out on YouTube Acoustic Guitar Zeuhl music :-)
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Tancos
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I spend more time listening to Tatsuya Yoshida's or Kido Natsuki's various projects than listening to Magma.
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nick_h_nz
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As much as I love some Magma albums, I love more Zeuhl albums not by Magma, than I do Magma albums. The great Magma albums are undoubtedly great, but their discography is definitely not universally great. So if I had to make the choice, as much as it pains me to do it, I would say goodbye to Magma, so that I could still enjoy all those other albums.
And while some Zeuhl bands are almost inarguably Magma clones, most have their own sound that might be influenced by Magma, but is certainly in no way derivative of it. So I definitely don’t agree that “all the other bands are imitating Magma”, though I am sure Cristi was joking anyway. But if they are imitating Magma, a lot of them are doing a piss poor job of it, because they sound nothing like Magma! 😜 |
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