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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 12798 |
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I disagreed with many of your statements, and pointed out in detail where you were wrong. It's rather daft to post a thread with the title "Almost prog but not quite", make misstatements about bands based on a lack of musical experience, and then expect folks to just nod their heads. Hilarious.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Surely if an album has a song about mythology, sci fi or psychology in an odd time signature then that song makes the album part prog?
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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
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Is this the old "is this artist Prog?" debate in a new guise?
If so, I submit XTC.
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
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It's perhaps unfortunate that regardless of the original premise of the thread (which I don't pretend to know) the inference will inevitably be drawn that 'Almost Prog but not quite' is qualitative i.e. that if these artists were more compliant with the genre definitions offered on PA, they would be considered Pedigree Prog breed rather than mongrel cross breeds of various other genres. When did we become the Crufts of Music?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 16583 |
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You mean like Genesis or Rush?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 16583 |
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Well, I don't really agree with everything on here being prog. Crossover prog seems like a silly label in some ways. Many of the crossover bands seem to be "art rock" to me. If all art rock is really just the same as prog(ie full blown prog) then why even bother with differentiating between the two. Anyway, some people are taking this a bit too seriously. It's just meant to be a way of discussing the genre and differentiating between what we consider to be prog vs what we feel doesn't what quite make it. It doesn't have to be a science and it really wasn't meant for anyone to express their musical elitism either(that's best left for that other prog site).I mentioned bands who I felt based on my experience with them didn't over all reach the levels of full blown prog. That's it. I'm not a student of music theory and I'm not a professional musician. I feel I know a lot about prog and music in general so I feel qualified to have an opinion on this regardless of what anyone says. However, while I don't mind a friendly discussion in the matter I'm not going to directly respond to trolls(anymore). Ok, carry on.
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Jzrk ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 21 2014 Location: Chicago Status: Offline Points: 126 |
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The original Journey first two or three albums may qualify for this
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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The first album by Rush is definately heavy blues rock like Zep, then the band introduced more and more symphonic influences. 2112 track is definately prog metal, and the next two albums were defibately heavy prog with symph influences...
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20538 |
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Edited by SteveG - January 16 2020 at 10:32 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 16583 |
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Nope. Impossible since prog metal didn't exist at the time. Proto prog metal maybe(but probably more like heavy prog) but they weren't even the first to do that.
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mcentra ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 19 2020 Location: united states Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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I'm one of those who interpret everything I like as " prog". 🙃
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Timeaisis ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: December 16 2019 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 10 |
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Can be proggy? Really? If someone asked me what progressive rock sounded like I would tell them to listen to early Genesis.
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2081 |
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There are people who consider early Rush to be a progenitor of prog metal. Much of Caress of Steel is proto-prog metal to me. 2112(track only) too. Cygnus X-1 as well. Might throw in By Tor and the Snow Dog as well. |
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