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Poll Question: Please choose five genres (not more)
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
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22 [8.09%]
29 [10.66%]
1 [0.37%]
18 [6.62%]
10 [3.68%]
19 [6.99%]
8 [2.94%]
15 [5.51%]
3 [1.10%]
16 [5.88%]
6 [2.21%]
7 [2.57%]
15 [5.51%]
8 [2.94%]
64 [23.53%]
2 [0.74%]
8 [2.94%]
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    Posted: March 12 2020 at 08:23
Now let's see what our favorite genres are.


Please choose your five (not more) favorite genres, and write the order of preference in the answer, from the first to the fifth.


Edited by jamesbaldwin - March 12 2020 at 14:10
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1 Eclectic Prog

2) Crossover Prog

3) Canterbury Scene

4) Rock progressivo italiano

5) Prog Folk

For the fifth position, I am undecided between folk and symphonic (l listen more symphonic than folk), but ok, goes with folk. Symphonic will take a lot of votes.
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Sorry, my error: I forgot to take psychedelic/space rock: an important genre, and not being able to add it anymore, I put it in place of the Inndo rock.

I am sorry for the lovers of  Indo, who can still write it in their answer putting its position, will in fact follow a final poll.
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Top Five.
  1. Symphonic
  2. Jazz Fusion
  3. Heavy
  4. Eclectic
  5. Crossover

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I am a "symph weenie." Apparently.

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1. Eclectic
2. RIO/Avant
3. Experimental/Post Metal
4. Heavy
5. Post Rock/Math Rock

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Afrofuturist
Raga-time
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Wow, I'm pretty sure this was already done sometime within the past year. Oh well.
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I have no idea
Right this minute these albums are some of my favourite included in PA:

Clivage - Mixtus Orbis
Bubu - Anabelas
Embryo - Rocksession
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys
Jean-Claude Vannier - L’Enfant Assassins Des Mouches
Franco Leprino - Integrati...Disintegrati

All these albums are located in different subs and I could find a lot of similar albums to prove my ‘point’..which basically just is that I go through different moods over any given year that usually come with an accompanying taste for music that is more jazzy/electronic/funky/experimental/poppy/folky/etc...so I never think of it like this tbh. One thing I will say though, is that I’ve always had a thing for psychedelic music...but then again a lot of the stuff I’d consider psychedelic is literally scattered throughout PA’s different subgenres.
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1. Symphonic Prog
2. Eclectic Prog
3. RIO/Avant-Prog
4. Rock Progressivo Italiano
5. Neo-Prog

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6. Zeuhl
7. Psychedelic/Space Rock
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2020 at 10:35
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Now let's see what our favorite genres are.


Please choose your five (not more) favorite genres, and write the order of preference in the answer, from the first to the third.
Thanks for running this poll. Thumbs Up I was planning to run the same poll, so you've saved me the time and trouble. Wink Here's my Top 5 prog genres:-
 
1. Symphonic Prog
2. Psychedelic/Space Rock
3. Crossover Prog
4. Prog Folk
5. Jazz-Rock/Fusion
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Symph.
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Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Afrofuturist
Raga-time
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Give me some Raga-time any time. That's my favourite out of your eccentric eclectic list. Smile
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symphonic
J/RF
post rock
progressive metal
crossover
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Afrofuturist
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Give me some Raga-time any time. That's my favourite out of your eccentric eclectic list. Smile
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1. RIO/Avant
2. Canterbury
3. Jazz rock/fusion
4. Symphonic

The other entries are a little too vague or broad, or I have mixed feelings about them.
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 I do find some of the sub-genres to be a little subjective or even confusing in some cases. 
 The difference between eclectic & avent or heavy and metal (When does heavy become metal? Confused)
or crossover & prog related can be subject to interpretation to some degree.
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RIO/Avant
Eclectic
Jazz-rock/Fusion
Canterbury 
Zeuhl

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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I have no idea
Right this minute these albums are some of my favourite included in PA:

Clivage - Mixtus Orbis
Bubu - Anabelas
Embryo - Rocksession
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys
Jean-Claude Vannier - L’Enfant Assassins Des Mouches
Franco Leprino - Integrati...Disintegrati

All these albums are located in different subs and I could find a lot of similar albums to prove my ‘point’..which basically just is that I go through different moods over any given year that usually come with an accompanying taste for music that is more jazzy/electronic/funky/experimental/poppy/folky/etc...so I never think of it like this tbh. One thing I will say though, is that I’ve always had a thing for psychedelic music...but then again a lot of the stuff I’d consider psychedelic is literally scattered throughout PA’s different subgenres.


I wrote a whole bunch, before opting to read this topic, but wow, this is so eerily similar to what I was writing, approach-wise, mentioning psych, and I mentioned most of those specific albums (with Embryo I mentioned Rache), so I won't bother posting my original and instead mention some of my other favourites:

Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer
Cos - Viva Boma (and others)
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Vortex - Les cycles de Thanatos
Igor Wakhevitch - Docteur Faust
Dom - Edge of Time
Zanov - Green Ray
Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising
Area - Caution Radiation Area
Magma - Kobaia
Herbie Hancock - Crossings and Sextant
Miles Davis - Big Fun and Get Up With It
Brave New World - Impressions on Reading Aldous Huxley
Art Zoyd - Les Espaces Inquiets
Rahmann - Rahmann
Spirogyra - St. Radigunds
Comus - First Utterance
Soft Machine - Third
Sergius Golowin - Lord Krishna Von Goloka
Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo

Bonus not in PA: Alice Coltrane - Universal Consciousness

By the way, I was rather disheartened not to see Indo-Prog/ Raga Rock in the poll, often said it, but it's a category that I wish was not so often overlooked: CLivage and Codona are two of my particular favourites.

Five wouldn't do it for me --I suppose Krautrock, Canterbury and Zeuhl are three of the most consistently good for me, so those would have to be there. And I could add Electronic Prog. I love plenty of Rio/Avant, but it's s mixed bag of nuts. Were it just RIO, then it would be much more consistently good for me. I love lots in Prog Folk, but do tend to be most into the Acid Folk ones (psychedelic folk). I love lots of JRF, but quite a lot I don't. While psych is an important competent, and there are many I love in the psych category, it's also very inconsistent for me. I would automatically dismiss Eclectic Prog and Crossover -- while there is plenty that I love, and I was in the Eclectic team, there are such mixed bags (and crossover a lot, they also cross over with Avant Prog). When on the Eclectic team, I didn't treat those as core genres (we made them up to help with classification and split up Art Rock). I did treat Art Rock still as a genre when deciding best fit.

Our categorisation can feel too artificial and even arbitrary to me, and I am all for multi-tagging on the album level, so I don;t really buy into this notion of genres of Prog except as very rough guide. A lot of acts could be in different categories,a lot of acts have diverse styles across albums, and even within albums. What we need are nuanced, fuzzy boxes that split off into different dimensions. Like with hypercubes, why don't we at least try hyperboxing? That's when you get very excitable individuals punching each other in the face.

Okay, I will try this, and I'm going via consistency and ones that I have been a completest with in the past. I don;t feel like adding a numeracy value to these (people do seem obsessed with numbering things, assigning values, and lists, but I guess that comes out of being pattern-seeking animals). I'm not much of a numbers guy anymore, and see rankings as more-and-more worthless and overly simplistic as I get older (it can help to get to know someone's taste, but some take such things so seriously).

Krautrock
Electronic
Canterbury Scene
Zeuhl

And umm, RIO or Folk or Indo-prog/Raga Rock, or JRF. Today I vote Folk for my acid folk favourites. Surprised myself that RIO is not being chosen (mostly that's been about Art Zoyd for me and obscurities such as Hellebore).

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