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It's not horrendously terrible.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

It's got a few really great songs that I really love, just as most of their albums besides Fragile and Close to the Edge (only these songs are shorter). I really love Shock to the System, The More we Live, and I Would have waited Forever. However, it bothers me to know that Steve Howe is actually barely featured on the ABWH tracks, his parts having been replaced by some session musician (I guess Wakeman might have suffered from some of this too).
 

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I always wonder who yes was/is trying to appeal to with some of these later albums
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I always wonder who yes was/is trying to appeal to with some of these later albums

that's actually a valid question Approve
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I always wonder who yes was/is trying to appeal to with some of these later albums

Who is any band trying to appeal to with any album?


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I always wonder who yes was/is trying to appeal to with some of these later albums

Who is any band trying to appeal to with any album?
I think Who is not appealing anybody!! Wink

But seriously, I think many new bands really try to appeal their fans, although it´s impossible, because hardcore fans are never satisfied whatever band is trying to make. But also I think Yes has always sounded just Yes, even it´s really mellow "Heaven & Earth".
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Yes was clearly trying to hop on the big production, big sound, synthesizes atmosphere of the late 80's and early 90's.

1991 would see a lot of that aesthetic and sonic style from many, many popular acts.

Union has passable tracks. Shock to The System is the best track that line up put together IMHO. Great riff, energy, vocals, etc.

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On a scale from 1 to 10, it's meh.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

On a scale from 1 to 10, it's meh.

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so "meh" means 5? 
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Approximately. Just listened to it again and that's the best rating I could come up. That one little word says a mouthful.
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It's a bearable album. Shock to the System, Lift me Up are great songs. The rest are ok, but you can tell there was something of a lack of interest or focus by the band, when listen to as a whole.
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Yes was clearly trying to hop on the big production, big sound, synthesizes atmosphere of the late 80's and early 90's.

1991 would see a lot of that aesthetic and sonic style from many, many popular acts.

Union has passable tracks. Shock to The System is the best track that line up put together IMHO. Great riff, energy, vocals, etc.
Sure Yes went already in the beginning of eighties in the big production. And they really tried to make hits and also had them (according to Phil Collins Rutherford & Banks wanted hits to Genesis already in Gabriel times). But I don´t think in their few recent albums they´ve tried to make only Yes-albums and not caring the styles of these days.
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For me, everything is acceptable apart from Saving My Heart. That song is rubbish.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

For me, everything is acceptable apart from Saving My Heart. That song is rubbish.

If you think that song is rubbish I can only imagine what you think of Owner of a  lonely heart and love will find a way. LOL
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^ Those songs are fairly decent in all their 80’s glory. Saving my Heart is rubbish. Just one of those things, I guess. Actually, Owner is a very good song.
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I saw Yes on the Union tour.  At the time I liked both albums a lot. I can't say that they would be the first ones I would turn to but still they are in my collection and I give them a spin whenever they come up in my roation schemes.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I saw Yes on the Union tour.  At the time I liked both albums a lot. I can't say that they would be the first ones I would turn to but still they are in my collection and I give them a spin whenever they come up in my roation schemes.

Both albums? The other being ABWH?

Same here. I saw both tours and bought the albums when they first came out. I was already discovering obscure prog at that point believe it or not but Yes was maybe the first prog band I got into and will always be a special band for me no matter what kind of "rubbish" they put out. Wink
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Digressing, but I think Heaven and Earth is excellent !!! Start to finish . There, I said it, it’s official, it’s out there 🤪
Do I run for cover ??


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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Digressing, but I think Heaven and Earth is excellent !!! Start to finish . There, I said it, it’s official, it’s out there 🤪
Do I run for cover ??

You don't have to run for cover because you are obviously joking. Wink
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Digressing, but I think Heaven and Earth is excellent !!! Start to finish . There, I said it, it’s official, it’s out there 🤪
Do I run for cover ??


You don't have to run for cover because you are obviously joking. Wink
um, I’m not joking. I have the turquoise vinyl edition. I return to this album often, smooth as silk, well performed and joyous. It’s a bit on the Dad-Prog side of the equation, but still enjoyable.
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