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Cheers & Happy Birthday.
Like a few others here I was lucky enough to 'Live the Dream' through the birth of progressive rock, currently tipping the calendar at 62yrs. But no matter what century/decade/era you're from, when you discover 'The Prog' it's an amazing feeling. Not all, in any time, take to it. I exposed my son from the age of 5-6 (1997-98) when we were in the car or playing in the house just because it's what I liked, not to convert him in any way. I don't think he really cares one way or the other about it.

You've discovered something special that may well be with you for the rest of your life. Take it all in. Thumbs Up

I have a personal affinity for Emerson Lake and Palmer so check them out if you haven't already. Their early stuff rocks.
Not sure how you expose yourself to new music but I like to take in new bands chronologically for context. Some are better at the beginning or their careers other later one. It's cool to see either the evo - or devolution of a band.
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Happy birthday also from me!
I saw King Crimson live last year in Verona's Arena and there were actually a lot of young ladies at about your age and below, if many of them with their parents. It was a delight to see that, and you''re not alone it seems. (I'm male in the fifties though.)


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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Happy birthday !

I am old enough (turned 61 yesterday) to have seen quite a few prog dinosaurs walking the earth in their heyday and happy to see that prog is not strictly associated with an ageing generation.
I think that you might like Gnidrolog (somewhere in the center of the triangle VdGG, GG and JT, flourished in 1972). From later bands Anekdoten, Daal or Areknamès may be worth checking out. There is enough to discover with the help of PA, even for elderly people like me.


wow that is super cool man! must have been amazing to be alive while these Giants where going around 
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I'm another young prog fan! 22 years old and also introduced to classic rock (and subsequently to prog) by my dad via Rush, Yes, and Floyd.
Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Excellent!! Welcome to PA and Happy Birthday Party (not old enough to give you a Beer)......I've exposed my kids to all this wacked out music and they have seen many concerts with the wife and I. If they like some of it that's great, at least they know there is something different out there if they get bored.
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Also younger here. 22.75 years of age thereabouts. Welcome. It also took me a while to warm up to certain acts or albums. Even ones I now worship, and that are influential in my own writing.
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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

Prog fans (or any genre) come in many forms. While perhaps dominated by males over 40 (50, 60?), there is always a younger fanbase too.

I think one reason why a lot of the younger generations listen to mainstream music of the times is that they are less exposed to other genres. I'm not just talking about prog, but any genre or style that barely get any room on radio, Spotify-playlists, Youtube etc. Often when I read about someone young in here, or who started listening to prog when they were young (but still aren't over 30), it's because their parents (mostly dads) listened to it at home or in the car. Nobody forced them or told them what to enjoy, but they found it because they were exposed to it.

My theory is that if everyone were given the opportunity to listen to a selection of highly regarded songs from different genres, many would find a new favorite genre.

Happy birthday and thanks for sharing.


Edit: Cool to see that you like RPI. If you haven't already, I suggest listening to the latest album by LogoS, released in 2020.

Thankfully, this is starting to change. Oddly enough, avenues for discovering new music are more plentiful than ever with the Internet, but you have to look for it, and it's easy to have too many choices. I think people are beginning to listen to more eclectic genres/sub-genres but don't really know it. It's because most people are probably bored of mainstream music and don't even realize it (according to a producer friend of mine). They were just listening to that stuff because they thought it was the only exciting kind of music being made today.

This is exemplified in the boom in popularity in nu-jazz/soul/funk acts, many with an electronic tinge. Several of these artists and groups have become big on the Internet.
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I turned 41 recently, but I consider myself "young" to Prog because I discovered it a little late in my life, at about 16 or 18 years old. Besides, Prog is practically unknown in this forsaken corner of the world, so I had to wait for the internet to become an accessible tool to become acquainted with this wonderful music. And that happened here until the very late 90's!

As it is, I am barely discovering those giants you talk about. Rush was my first contact with prog in the mid 80's, although at the time I wasn't aware of the genre it belonged to. Then came Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Symphony X, and later on, the truly classic progsters, like ELP, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Genesis, and more recently, Camel.

I am still in the beginning of the learning process. I'm in awe of all these PA veterans who have so much knowledge of pretty obscure bands and subgenres. And I am also very grateful for sites like this that teach me so much of those amazing bands and these amazing fans
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read an article in the NY Times that smart college students were more likely to enjoy prog---that is true as I am very smart LOL
what seems to be absolutely true is young musicians --especially those who study jazz or classical definitely appreciate prog even if they think it can be pretentious or annoying. 
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Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

read an article in the NY Times that smart college students were more likely to enjoy prog---that is true as I am very smart LOL
what seems to be absolutely true is young musicians --especially those who study jazz or classical definitely appreciate prog even if they think it can be pretentious or annoying. 

Is that a recent article or from a while ago?
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

read an article in the NY Times that smart college students were more likely to enjoy prog---that is true as I am very smart LOL
what seems to be absolutely true is young musicians --especially those who study jazz or classical definitely appreciate prog even if they think it can be pretentious or annoying. 

Is that a recent article or from a while ago?

while ago.
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Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

read an article in the NY Times that smart college students were more likely to enjoy prog---that is true as I am very smart LOL
what seems to be absolutely true is young musicians --especially those who study jazz or classical definitely appreciate prog even if they think it can be pretentious or annoying. 

Is that a recent article or from a while ago?

while ago.

Probably in the seventies then. I can't imagine anyone bothering to poll college students on something like that in recent years. Most probably wouldn't even know what it is. 
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Well, this all shows prog's not dead.
If you like prog made in recent years, that is prog made in your time, this is the thread for you:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=123987
Sadly no reviews by anyone other than myself yet.



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I discovered prog at the gentle age of 12, when a friend of mine played his older brother's copy of ITCOTCK. This was in 1970. 

I was instantly hooked by the lush, rich sound of Mellotrons and never went back!  

So yes, dear Santa, it is possible for the young to find and enjoy prog.  


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I meet a lot of young people and they are my friends and the ones who love music know what prog is---the youtube reactions of young people listening to prog for the first time are great ---
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bloody young people Smile
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Originally posted by Sllepty Sllepty wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Happy birthday !

I am old enough (turned 61 yesterday) to have seen quite a few prog dinosaurs walking the earth in their heyday and happy to see that prog is not strictly associated with an ageing generation.
I think that you might like Gnidrolog (somewhere in the center of the triangle VdGG, GG and JT, flourished in 1972). From later bands Anekdoten, Daal or Areknamès may be worth checking out. There is enough to discover with the help of PA, even for elderly people like me.


wow that is super cool man! must have been amazing to be alive while these Giants where going around 

It was, in a way . But we could not know back then that their music would get so much appreciation from later generations. In my teens there were very few who listened to music from the days when their parents grew up.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I discovered prog at the gentle age of 12, when a friend of mine played his older brother's copy of ITCOTCK. This was in 1970. 

I was instantly hooked by the lush, rich sound of Mellotrons and never went back!  

So yes, dear Santa, it is possible for the young to find and enjoy prog.  

Maybe not super easy these days for a younger person to find out about prog(or anyone who's not already a fan for that matter) but it's certainly easier now than any period of time since the 70's. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I discovered prog at the gentle age of 12, when a friend of mine played his older brother's copy of ITCOTCK. This was in 1970. 

I was instantly hooked by the lush, rich sound of Mellotrons and never went back!  

So yes, dear Santa, it is possible for the young to find and enjoy prog.  

Maybe not super easy these days for a younger person to find out about prog(or anyone who's not already a fan for that matter) but it's certainly easier now than any period of time since the 70's. 

We greybeards must help them!  I was teaching high school biology, and my kids know I'm a musician, so they asked what bands I like.  I told them Yes and King Crimson.  Within minutes, one of the lads had pulled up live CTTE on his cell phone and was showing it around!  

It just takes a spark.  Teach the young.  I had too much musical equipment lying around, so I donated thousands of dollars worth to a Chicago charity called Girls Rock Chicago before we moved.  It was appreciated so I'm told.   If I were in Chicago, I'd be giving Chris Squire bass guitar lessons! 



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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I discovered prog at the gentle age of 12, when a friend of mine played his older brother's copy of ITCOTCK. This was in 1970. 

I was instantly hooked by the lush, rich sound of Mellotrons and never went back!  

So yes, dear Santa, it is possible for the young to find and enjoy prog.  

Maybe not super easy these days for a younger person to find out about prog(or anyone who's not already a fan for that matter) but it's certainly easier now than any period of time since the 70's. 

We greybeards must help them!  I was teaching high school biology, and my kids know I'm a musician, so they asked what bands I like.  I told them Yes and King Crimson.  Within minutes, one of the lads had pulled up live CTTE on his cell phone and was showing it around!  

It just takes a spark.  Teach the young.  I had too much musical equipment lying around, so I donated thousands of dollars worth to a Chicago charity called Girls Rock Chicago before we moved.  It was appreciated so I'm told.   If I were in Chicago, I'd be giving Chris Squire bass guitar lessons! 


Hey now, there's only a little bit of grey in my beard. Tongue

There are actually probably more younger fans out there than we might think and not all of them found out about prog through their parents. I actually got into prog in the eighties so if it can be done then it can be done now. Wink
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