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Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Florian in particular seems to get very overlooked.
I was going to say that as well, really lovely album, but it's everything Mike doesn't like about them LOL I do like my RPI more tender and less pyrotechnic though.


For symphonic prog i love bombast. I'm perfectly fine with tenderness in prog folk and more easy listening styles of music. Le Orme is doing fine without me salivating over their every move LOL

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Storia from 78 is excellent
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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I have 11 Le Orme albums and it was the first Italian Symphonic Prog band that I got into. I haven't listened to it much in many years as my tastes shifted (Picchio Dal Pozzo and Area quickly became particular Italian faves on mine when I explored Italian Prog more). One album I loved that didn't get as much attention is Contrappunti. I particularly liked the run of four: Collage, Uomo di pezza, Felona e Serona, and Contrappunti.

This was one of my particular favourite Le Orme pieces:



Excellent band, I think, and I rather feel like returning to Felona... now (the album that got me into Le Orme).
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now I want to find some time for some Le Orme.

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I go on a kick with a "new" prog band every winter. It's looking like an Italiano prog winter between Le Orme, Banco De Mutuo Soccorso, PFM (my most established Italian act by far, lol), etc.

That album Darwin! by BDMS is incredible IDK how I missed that one for so long!

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

If you like Le Orme, then check out Jacula and Antonius Rex too. Thumbs Up

neither sounds like Le Orme. 
Agreed. Jacula and Antonius Rex are closer to Gothic Rock.
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I go on a kick with a "new" prog band every winter. It's looking like an Italiano prog winter between Le Orme, Banco De Mutuo Soccorso, PFM (my most established Italian act by far, lol), etc.

That album Darwin! by BDMS is incredible IDK how I missed that one for so long!

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I go on a kick with a "new" prog band every winter. It's looking like an Italiano prog winter between Le Orme, Banco De Mutuo Soccorso, PFM (my most established Italian act by far, lol), etc.

That album Darwin! by BDMS is incredible IDK how I missed that one for so long!


About 20 years ago when the Gnosis website was getting rolling and PA was just a gleam in Max's eye, the Gnosis raters had as their highest-rated album something called Darwin! from a band I'd never heard of before. Rated even higher than my beloved Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Gentle Giant, etc. Alongside it was another album, Per Un Amico by another strange sounding name.

I had to try them out, so I ordered them online (another pretty new phenomenon!) and quickly put the Darwin! disc in. I was blown away by L'Evoluzione--that voice, that fire, those keyboards--wow! Per Un Amico had a similar effect, but this time it was the gentle melodies that drew me in.

Rock Progressivo Italiano has been my passion ever since! I still love the others and always will, but I seek out anything Italian from that era I can find. So many incredible gems, so much depth! I am so grateful for that discovery.
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I love Le Orme. Almost as much as PFM and/or Banco. Some days more than either.

Aldo's voice is just sublime!!!
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I have 11 Le Orme albums and it was the first Italian Symphonic Prog band that I got into. I haven't listened to it much in many years as my tastes shifted (Picchio Dal Pozzo and Area quickly became particular Italian faves on mine when I explored Italian Prog more). One album I loved that didn't get as much attention is Contrappunti. I particularly liked the run of four: Collage, Uomo di pezza, Felona e Serona, and Contrappunti.

This was one of my particular favourite Le Orme pieces:



Excellent band, I think, and I rather feel like returning to Felona... now (the album that got me into Le Orme).

From Collage to Contrappunti, Le Orme was as good as anybody!!!
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I have 11 Le Orme albums and it was the first Italian Symphonic Prog band that I got into. I haven't listened to it much in many years as my tastes shifted (Picchio Dal Pozzo and Area quickly became particular Italian faves on mine when I explored Italian Prog more). One album I loved that didn't get as much attention is Contrappunti. I particularly liked the run of four: Collage, Uomo di pezza, Felona e Serona, and Contrappunti.

This was one of my particular favourite Le Orme pieces:



Excellent band, I think, and I rather feel like returning to Felona... now (the album that got me into Le Orme).


From Collage to Contrappunti, Le Orme was as good as anybody!!!


Keep going to Storia. 71-78 great period. They also have a cool single from 75


Edited by dr prog - December 07 2020 at 14:53
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Out of the Big 3 of RPI, the one that I do like the most is Banco. PFM and Le Orme I found less appealing, even though both have music that I do like a lot. Felona e Sorona is indeed a great album. Also, I never understood the comparison between Le Orme and ELP, for me they sound nothing alike (in any case, I think Banco sounds a bit more similar to ELP, even if they don't have the trio keyboard driven format).
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My thoughts on Le Orme? Ok secret divulging time: Aldo Tagliapietra played at my wedding , summer 2019, it was a present from my best man, the creator behind Consorzio Acqua Potabile , Maurizio Venegoni. I spoiled the surprise because I recognized Aldo immediately , which turned out to be a very cool moment and the serenade was all night long. Amazing night! 
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

My thoughts on Le Orme? Ok secret divulging time: Aldo Tagliapietra played at my wedding , summer 2019, it was a present from my best man, the creator behind Consorzio Acqua Potabile , Maurizio Venegoni. I spoiled the surprise because I recognized Aldo immediately , which turned out to be a very cool moment and the serenade was all night long. Amazing night! 


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Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I go on a kick with a "new" prog band every winter. It's looking like an Italiano prog winter between Le Orme, Banco De Mutuo Soccorso, PFM (my most established Italian act by far, lol), etc.

That album Darwin! by BDMS is incredible IDK how I missed that one for so long!


About 20 years ago when the Gnosis website was getting rolling and PA was just a gleam in Max's eye, the Gnosis raters had as their highest-rated album something called Darwin! from a band I'd never heard of before. Rated even higher than my beloved Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Gentle Giant, etc. Alongside it was another album, Per Un Amico by another strange sounding name.

I had to try them out, so I ordered them online (another pretty new phenomenon!) and quickly put the Darwin! disc in. I was blown away by L'Evoluzione--that voice, that fire, those keyboards--wow! Per Un Amico had a similar effect, but this time it was the gentle melodies that drew me in.

Rock Progressivo Italiano has been my passion ever since! I still love the others and always will, but I seek out anything Italian from that era I can find. So many incredible gems, so much depth! I am so grateful for that discovery.

Dude, I heard Darwin! for the first time just two days ago (I know), and it immediately clicked. After enough prog you start to recognize the gems after about a minute in. This one is an absolute, must have piece of prog rock right up there with Per Un Amico IMHO.

The smoothness of execution, the tone, presence, cadence - it's all next level despite somehow being 1972.

Masterful.

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I go on a kick with a "new" prog band every winter. It's looking like an Italiano prog winter between Le Orme, Banco De Mutuo Soccorso, PFM (my most established Italian act by far, lol), etc.

That album Darwin! by BDMS is incredible IDK how I missed that one for so long!


About 20 years ago when the Gnosis website was getting rolling and PA was just a gleam in Max's eye, the Gnosis raters had as their highest-rated album something called Darwin! from a band I'd never heard of before. Rated even higher than my beloved Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Gentle Giant, etc. Alongside it was another album, Per Un Amico by another strange sounding name.

I had to try them out, so I ordered them online (another pretty new phenomenon!) and quickly put the Darwin! disc in. I was blown away by L'Evoluzione--that voice, that fire, those keyboards--wow! Per Un Amico had a similar effect, but this time it was the gentle melodies that drew me in.

Rock Progressivo Italiano has been my passion ever since! I still love the others and always will, but I seek out anything Italian from that era I can find. So many incredible gems, so much depth! I am so grateful for that discovery.

Dude, I heard Darwin! for the first time just two days ago (I know), and it immediately clicked. After enough prog you start to recognize the gems after about a minute in. This one is an absolute, must have piece of prog rock right up there with Per Un Amico IMHO.

The smoothness of execution, the tone, presence, cadence - it's all next level despite somehow being 1972.

Masterful.


Hey, better late than never! I'm envious that you have so many amazing discoveries ahead of you!
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Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

I go on a kick with a "new" prog band every winter. It's looking like an Italiano prog winter between Le Orme, Banco De Mutuo Soccorso, PFM (my most established Italian act by far, lol), etc.

That album Darwin! by BDMS is incredible IDK how I missed that one for so long!


About 20 years ago when the Gnosis website was getting rolling and PA was just a gleam in Max's eye, the Gnosis raters had as their highest-rated album something called Darwin! from a band I'd never heard of before. Rated even higher than my beloved Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Rush, Gentle Giant, etc. Alongside it was another album, Per Un Amico by another strange sounding name.

I had to try them out, so I ordered them online (another pretty new phenomenon!) and quickly put the Darwin! disc in. I was blown away by L'Evoluzione--that voice, that fire, those keyboards--wow! Per Un Amico had a similar effect, but this time it was the gentle melodies that drew me in.

Rock Progressivo Italiano has been my passion ever since! I still love the others and always will, but I seek out anything Italian from that era I can find. So many incredible gems, so much depth! I am so grateful for that discovery.

Dude, I heard Darwin! for the first time just two days ago (I know), and it immediately clicked. After enough prog you start to recognize the gems after about a minute in. This one is an absolute, must have piece of prog rock right up there with Per Un Amico IMHO.

The smoothness of execution, the tone, presence, cadence - it's all next level despite somehow being 1972.

Masterful.


Hey, better late than never! I'm envious that you have so many amazing discoveries ahead of you!

If I'm honest, it's like my tastes are driving right into all the Italian Prog I overlooked in my excitement with the symphonic classics for the last decade or more. Now it's all clicking. I credit that to having grown more as a musician myself! As my personal understanding of theory and composition improves, so too does my appreciation for how insane these bands were at such an early stage in the golden era!

You don't need to understand music to appreciate any artist, of course, but I find it's like being well-versed with writing or language; you appreciate a top-tier artist that much more, and what it means to you, it ultimately all that matters in the long run anyway! Smile

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For symphonic prog i love bombast. 
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Hi,

Honestly, this was the kind of thing that turned me off ... I regretted not seeing ELP, mostly because of the history by folks around me telling me how far out it was to see the organ flip and him playing from the backside of the audience and then he using a knife to hold keys down.

In the end, the organ thing is fine, the backwards thing weird and fun, and the knife ... it was used to create a sustain between a couple of keys ... it was not meant to be thought of as some kind of this or that.

Listening to ELP and Emerson's music (specially as done by Rachel Flowers), shows what a great bunch of compositions a lot of their material was ... and they played it well. Some folks didn't (and still don't) like how Greg Lake did some things ... but all it tells you is that a "regular" note by note singer, would not have fit in this group at all!

The music itself is excellent. And seeing it being interpreted by an orchestra and others, is fantastic ... not even the Beatles has created such glorious material for a concert. It was all songs for them ... not here ... but as I said in another thread, it was a time for color, and far out stuff for our over indulged brains full of something or other ... and a lot of things were far out ... so one likes the bombastic tone here, and then Ozziie kills a bat ... and everyone thinks its cool! Sick!!!!

I don't think that "Bombastic" is important ... and then you can watch HIROMI UEHARA and how she plays is BOMBASTIC .... and insane ... and you love every minute of it ... ohh wait ... she's not "progressive" ... but the performance applies ... and she (kinda) makes someone like Keith Jarrett seem mechanical by comparison in the playing style ... she's all over the place!

I don't like to think of "bombastic" as important ... one of the biggest (and most famous) flute player (classical!!!) was always the darling of the concert circuit until one day he went on stage at the Hollywood Bowl with a jazz flutist that blew him off the stage ... and this guy was not bombastic ... he was just plain good and great and the other idiot was shown to be a fraud!

And, of course, many bands try to be "bombastic" because the fans like it and they will "remember" it for a long time ... sad that for that minute no one gives a merde about the music at all !!!! Pathetic really ... and you are a musician, and you ought to know that is the worst feeling in your stomach!
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Le Orme is amazing band! Studio albums released in 1972-1974 are masterpieces.
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