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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I was talking to my brother yesterday(who is more of a casual Rush fan than a hardcore one)and he said that he thinks that "Moving Pictures" was the last great Rush album. Do you agree? What do you guys think their last great one was? 
To me, Grace Under Pressure and Clockwork Angels were both great Rush albums. Between the Wheels from Grace... is one of my favorite Rush songs.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I was talking to my brother yesterday(who is more of a casual Rush fan than a hardcore one)and he said that he thinks that "Moving Pictures" was the last great Rush album. Do you agree? What do you guys think their last great one was? 

The ones who say that are the ones who did not like the bigger synth sound Rush embraced on the albums immediately following Moving Pictures — that, plus the departure of Terry Brown after Signals, Geddy playing a Steinberger L2 along with his Rick and Fender, etc.

But, like you say, he's a "casual" fan.

Well, that's how I would label his interest. He's three years older than me, never saw them live and only owned several compilations and moving pictures and not much else. I don't think he's basing his opinion on a real knowledge of their entire output(or even most of it). I could be wrong but I don't think I'm too far off the mark here. He did go see their last movie with me when it came out in the theater(sevearl months before Neil passed away). I remember giving him names of songs for him to check out on his spotify. He's really more into 80's and 90's alternative rock and singer songwriter stuff although in the past few years he has claimed that Journey is one of his favorite bands.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I was talking to my brother yesterday(who is more of a casual Rush fan than a hardcore one)and he said that he thinks that "Moving Pictures" was the last great Rush album. Do you agree? What do you guys think their last great one was? 

The ones who say that are the ones who did not like the bigger synth sound Rush embraced on the albums immediately following Moving Pictures — that, plus the departure of Terry Brown after Signals, Geddy playing a Steinberger L2 along with his Rick and Fender, etc.

But, like you say, he's a "casual" fan.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ In hindsight I'd have to say Signals is a great album, but MP is a classic for very good reasons so I'd tend to agree with your brother in the strictest sense of the word "great".


Right. Sometimes you'll see these discussions online about who are the greatest classical composers and which of their works were "great" and the "greatest." They are using the term great in the same way many of us might use the word masterpiece or even classic. For me Signals is a great album and so were several of their post MP albums. While I think clockwork angels gets off to a rocky start most of that album is pretty  solid so I would say CA(or CWMFA as some call it)qualifies as great imo.


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^ In hindsight I'd have to say Signals is a great album, but MP is a classic for very good reasons so I'd tend to agree with your brother in the strictest sense of the word "great".
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I was talking to my brother yesterday(who is more of a casual Rush fan than a hardcore one)and he said that he thinks that "Moving Pictures" was the last great Rush album. Do you agree? What do you guys think their last great one was? 

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

My dream scenerio would be that they both team up with Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman and do some new music... I guess that would be even better than the AWR thing that never recorded in the studio. Now for a drummer, I guess some might laugh at the idea, but I would like Portnoy with them.

That might be fun, Jon and Rick, but no Portnoy. Alex has worked already with Marco Minnemann so they have some chemistry. Portnoy has not worked with any of these legends, he's fine where he is LOL.

I'm not holding my breath for any of this to happen before 2022, late.


I thought of Portnoy because, well, I know him well enough and love Dream Theater, and because, given his working with Transatlantic and Neal Morse he is right into the kind of music Yes did (and given DT, he is right for heavier music too). But yeah, Marco should be great too.
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Tough watch.....the loudest drums you'll hear, not being played Cry



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I'm interested to see if these guys continue down this path.
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Interesting song from debut album of Crown Lands.  They used 3 different Rush producers on this album.  Hear Three Rush Producers’ Work on Crown Lands’ Tribute Song (ultimateclassicrock.com)  Probably, not the right place to share this, but I think that Rush fans might appreciate this.  
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Great interview with Martin Popoff....
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Marco is the one.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

My dream scenerio would be that they both team up with Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman and do some new music... I guess that would be even better than the AWR thing that never recorded in the studio. Now for a drummer, I guess some might laugh at the idea, but I would like Portnoy with them.
That might be fun, Jon and Rick, but no Portnoy. Alex has worked already with Marco Minnemann so they have some chemistry. Portnoy has not worked with any of these legends, he's fine where he is LOL.

I'm not holding my breath for any of this to happen before 2022, late.
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My dream scenerio would be that they both team up with Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman and do some new music... I guess that would be even better than the AWR thing that never recorded in the studio. Now for a drummer, I guess some might laugh at the idea, but I would like Portnoy with them.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Listen to the Alex interview, he seems pretty stern he has no desire to tour, he said being on the road away from family for 40yrs is enough.

I wouldn't be surprised if they played some live dates, just because.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Whatever it is, it won't be called Rush.

Rash
Gush
Mush
The Traveling Lerxst & Dirk Show

Just not Rush.

Whatever they call themselves there's no rule that says they can't play Rush songs though. I don't see why that wouldn't happen. It probabably wouldn't be just Rush songs though. I get the feeling they want to make new music together and at some point play that stuff live(depending on what the state of the world is like when that happens otherwise live just means in a studio over zoom).

Rush material will most certainly get played, but I bet they won't open with it, and they probably won't frontload the show with Rush tunes, either. I'd expect them to play every new song they make, along with some Victor and Headache stuff in order to delay playing Rush songs (or even relegate them to encores).

This all feels like it's a while off, anyway — the second half of 2022, at the earliest.
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Listen to the Alex interview, he seems pretty stern he has no desire to tour, he said being on the road away from family for 40yrs is enough.
If they do music together I think it will be new studio content or guesting on other bands albums, it seems Geddy is the only one has not said no to touring, but he would be on his own probably.

Alex has had hand issues over the past 10yrs, but he mentioned they feel much better now. As far back as the Rush In Rio DVD, Alex mentioned hand issues.
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Can't see them playing live. TBH I wouldn't want them to do old material, without Neil that would be a pale imitation of former glory. I don't think Alex can play those songs anymore anyway, you can hear him struggle on the live material. No disrespect intended, his hands got sick! Likewise, Geddy's voice was shot to pieces. 

OTOH, some instrumental stuff, perhaps not a million miles from My Favourite Headache or Victor would be cool. 

Of course all this assumes it's ever going to happen. But some new studio material would be welcome. I just don't think the live arena is the right path. IMHO
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Whatever it is, it won't be called Rush.

Rash
Gush
Mush
The Traveling Lerxst & Dirk Show

Just not Rush.

Whatever they call themselves there's no rule that says they can't play Rush songs though. I don't see why that wouldn't happen. It probabably wouldn't be just Rush songs though. I get the feeling they want to make new music together and at some point play that stuff live(depending on what the state of the world is like when that happens otherwise live just means in a studio over zoom).


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Whatever it is, it won't be called Rush.

Rash
Gush
Mush
The Traveling Lerxst & Dirk Show

Just not Rush.
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