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Guldbamsen
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There’s just something about drummers that rely on feel in order to groove opposed to click-connoisseurs that go mad if they don’t have that mechanical tightness, where everything is on beat and interchangeable.
Somebody should explain to those guys that the real deal - the genuinely interesting bits - comes from knowing when NOT to be on beat and when to speed things up or conversely slow things down. In the end it’s a band thing, a conversation, and you simply can’t get that from, granted, insanely gifted modern musicians playing in their individual phoneboothes. |
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Progishness
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Don't forget the maverick genius Ginger Baker either.
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BaldFriede
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Christian Burchard of Embryo. Here an example of his drumming: Christian Vander of Magma: Freddy Setz of Aera and Roman Bunka: Jacky Bouladoux, drummer of Clearlight and Christian Boulé (among many others); he also jammed with Jaco Pastorius: Edited by BaldFriede - May 19 2021 at 11:16 |
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verslibre
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Barlow is one of the three best drummers Tull had, along with the late Mark Craney and Doane Perry (who got to show us what's he made of in concert). Barlow was integral to the '70s Tull sound. I can't imagine those albums without his playing.
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Piotr Dziemski
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Icarium
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Three drummers I feel / recognizes as often overlooked yet wonderfully skilled drummers are the three drummers of Gentle Giant but late Martin Smitt, whom did the two first, whom was the most jazzy and sponatinos drummer , just check hes style on Alucard or the House the Street, the Room, and Malcolm Mortimore, a round house drummer, flexible, recently been in Three Friends band, and lomgest playing drummer with GG, John 'Pugwash' Weathers, i just love hes complex drumming, master of intricate syncopation, no bullsh$@#, very hard to explaine hes drumming with uneducated words.
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verslibre
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There's Triumvirat, and their first four albums with drummer Hans Bathelt. Their 3rd & 4th, Spartacus and Old Loves Die Hard, are their best, IMO. If you're at all familiar with Passport, their drummer was Curt Cress. Here's Curt as bandleader. |
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HORACEE ARNOLD. Horacee – drums, percussion Jan Hammer – Moog, electric piano Rick Laird – bass John Abercrombie – electric guitar David Friedman – vibes Sonny Fortune – sax, flute Ralph Towner – 12-string guitar |
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BaldFriede
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The drummer on the first album of Passport was Udo Lindenberg, who later became very famous in Germany, but as a singer, not a drummer. He also played on the solo album of Jean-Jacques Kravetz. |
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Dellinger
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Perhaps for those who usually check out sites and lists from the prog scene and with prog fans, because we won't usually see them. But I guess it's actually a bit of fresh air, because on any other rock site they will usually be mentioned... and I'd be surprised if there was any such list that doesn't have Bonham at number 1. Any of those classic prog fans who have some apreciation for drummers should do themselves a favor and check out these other drummers. |
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moshkito
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Well said ... with one issue ... the poster is not a good listener to bands and players that were not "listed" as superior. And many have not given Moerlin, Neumeier, Vander, Liebezeit a good enough listen to really make their ideal about "prog drummers" ... and to not consider most in your list as a part of it ... just tells you what the listener ever gave his attention to! This is, for me, the saddest part of a lot of these posts!
I'm not sure that their music can stand a "progressive" or "prog" written by someone that is not interested and has not appreciated (what I call) "cinematic music" ... complete with lyrics, instead of insipid music with banal lyrics telling them what it is supposed to be about!
Not sure I would include Paice with the others, but he's fine for me. And, yes ... it is the FEEL that is missing, and the small and better "accents" to help the music be better designed and played ... for that matter, I would DEFINITELY include Carl Palmer here as well.
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Artik
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Of those not mentioned yet I just love:
Michael Giles work on first two King Crimson albums Andy McCulloch for his work on King Crimson "Lizard" (his Greenslade work was nice too) Robert Wyatt for his work on Soft Machine "4" especialy his imaginative cymbals only fest lasting for a few minutes :) John Densmore for his ability to illustarate (in rather theatrical way) Jim's poetry on the spot
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Nobody yet has mentioned Guy Evans of Van der Graaf Generator.
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The Anders
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Some favourite drummers, any genre: Ringo Starr Keith Moon Ian Paice Alex Riel (The Savage Rose, Sebastian's band, and lots of jazz) John Densmore Jaki Liebezeit Maureen Tucker (The Velvet Underground) Topper Headon (The Clash) Tony Allen Bo Thrige Andersen (Burnin' Red Ivanhoe) Helen Wiggin (The Shaggs) (!)
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totally agree
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BaldFriede
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John Densmore is a very underrated drummer. He has a jazz background, and you can clearly hear it in many songs of The Doors.
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chopper
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Moon is a bit of an oddity, I've never been able to answer the question about whether he's a good drummer or not. He's all over the place yet somehow it all works and you can't imagine those Who albums without him.
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It's his live performances that got me convinced that he has to be a mad genius. I particularly love watching the 1970 Isle of Wight Concert.
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BaldFriede
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Moon often used very unusual ways of holding the drumsticks.
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Dark Ness
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I support this message. (think he really contributes/d significantly to the sonic landscape of VDGG)
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