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    Posted: April 26 2023 at 14:23
The Doors - Tell All The People
(I would have started it out with "Touch Me" and ended with "The Soft Parade".. This song is boring, and Jim actually called it dumb, the only time he criticized a song of theirs)

Chicago - A Hit For Varese (it doesn't go far out at all after this song... and it took until VII to finally get a great balance)
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Led Zeppelin III opens with the Immigrant Song... hits hard with an incredible hard rock riff. 
The rest?  Acoustic Zeppelin bliss.  Folky. That said, Zeppelin III is incredible from beginning to end.

I always thought that 21st Century Schizoid Man begins insanely hard and intense...while the rest of "In The Court Of The Crimson King"  floats by gorgeously. The entire album is an essential classic.  Beautiful. 


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Pendragon - The Jewel 
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^^ King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man makes the album essential to me, but I probably wouldn't have the album otherwise, not even for the final track.
 
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Focus - Hocus Pocus
Argent - Hold Your Head Up
 



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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Focus - Hocus Pocus

I agree, and in fact, it works best to me to listen to the second half of the album (Focus II) first.
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Saga's Wildest Dreams (1987) opens with "Don't Put Out the Fire": a complete throwaway.

The rest of the album is really good: far from the best they've ever done, and a bit brief, but still really good.
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The first album I come to think of is David Bowie (a.k.a. Space Oddity) by David Bowie. The song "Space Oddity" is itself very unlike the hippy-ish folk rock of the rest of the album, not to mention it is produced very differently.
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Yes - Going For The One 

The title track is very rocking and not that prog compared to not just the rest of the album but everything they did up to that point (until release release on the next allbum which is even more rock n rollish).

Unfortunately I can't really think of any others off the top of my head.
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The opener on "Clochard" by Emmanuel Booz, I decided to give that album a listen and that first track was so bad I almost stopped listening but I gave it a chance and the rest of the album rocked.
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Sapari by Orphaned Land. The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR is one of the most progressive albums I've ever listened heard in metal, but Sapari is one of the least progressive songs Orphaned Land ever put out. I don't like it too much, especially compared to the rest of the album, tbh.

Time Has Told Me by Nick Drake. This is like a country/contemporary folk song with very little instrumental arrangement, yet the rest of the album is more classically-driven chamber folk with a lush arrangement.

Exhaler by Wilderun. It's a folk song. Epigone is a metal album.

Do songs like "The Ophidian" by Nevermore count?
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Kind of a random one, but Brand X's Morrocan Roll opens with Sun in the Night, a song that stylistically has nothing to do with the rest of the album. Every song after that sounds similar to their debut album, so I still don't know what they were thinking when they put that song up front, and I was a little worried when I heard it for the first time.

Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Led Zeppelin III opens with the Immigrant Song... hits hard with an incredible hard rock riff. 
The rest?  Acoustic Zeppelin bliss.  Folky. That said, Zeppelin III is incredible from beginning to end.

I always thought that 21st Century Schizoid Man begins insanely hard and intense...while the rest of "In The Court Of The Crimson King"  floats by gorgeously. The entire album is an essential classic.  Beautiful. 

The idea of Led Zep III is that the first side is more electric/heavy and the second is more acoustic, but now that you mention it, there really isn't anything on the first side that rocks nearly as hard as Immigrant Song.

21st Century Schizoid Man I completely agree with, yeah. I really like it when something loud and chaotic is immediately followed by something soft and friendly, but when listening to that album for the first time I was really surprised it never really returns to anything similar to the opening track.
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Maybe Colosseum II - Dark Side Of The Moog from their debut album Strange New Flesh. The opening track is the only instrumental on the album and probably my favourite instrumental prog track of all time. The rest of the album is deadly dull and features vocals. The next 2 albums fixed this after they realised they didn't need a vocalist!
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