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    Posted: May 31 2023 at 14:23
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

I don't recall you being rude. We've disagreed, but that's all.

I wrote in haste there, as I really don't want to go through the same things. I said "You did that.", I meant he ridiculed your view, not him being rude to you or anyone else. Cristi is a nice person. I said it there too.

But, Cristi ridiculed your "view", not you. 

You or Cristi can PM me, if interested. I believe I can find that flow of conversation(s) via a search.

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I guess this fits the definition of "caterwauling" per certain forum members. That's too bad.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

And in regards to "Comfortably Numb" and "Run Like Hell", there are no songs on Operation: Mindcrime that come even close to that level of greatness. So, there's that. 

In my opinion, there are.

Livecrime is as epic a concert video as any out there. Plus, there are no vocals on this level to be found on The Wall.

Thank god for that. I've never been a fan of caterwauling. 
Thumbs Up A rare emoji from me for that comment. Vocals "on that level" is ok on 1980's power/hair metal*, but would be a complete abomination on The Wall. Blah
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

I don't recall you being rude. We've disagreed, but that's all.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ Cristi. You can and did say about Ayreon and Arjen Anthony Lucassen anything you like. We never judge(d) your convictions. But, you conduct that behaviour. Always...

The vicious cycyle is... obvious if you have an average memory. The previous one began with Hercules's post about how he is not interested in Dream Theater and prefers Haken and Riverside any day. You ridiculed his statement and said that they are influenced by DT. I replied to your posts. And the vicious cycle began... and lasted very long. It always happens concerning my talks with you, especially when there's an obvious dissension...

I really hope that "you're done". But I unfortunately highly doubt it. My previous experiences hints the opposite.

I don't remember ridiculing anyone. That's a serious accusation. 

I don't think I have ever been rude to you, or Hercules. 


I don't recall you being rude. We've disagreed, but that's all.
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^ You're wrong. You did that. I'll not bother with a search, but I'm 100% sure. I'm done. Bye.
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ Cristi. You can and did say about Ayreon and Arjen Anthony Lucassen anything you like. We never judge(d) your convictions. But, you conduct that behaviour. Always...

The vicious cycyle is... obvious if you have an average memory. The previous one began with Hercules's post about how he is not interested in Dream Theater and prefers Haken and Riverside any day. You ridiculed his statement and said that they are influenced by DT. I replied to your posts. And the vicious cycle began... and lasted very long. It always happens concerning my talks with you, especially when there's an obvious dissension...

I really hope that "you're done". But I unfortunately highly doubt it. My previous experiences hints the opposite.

I don't remember ridiculing anyone. That's a serious accusation. 

I don't think I have ever been rude to you, or Hercules. 
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^ Cristi. You can and did say about Ayreon and Arjen Anthony Lucassen any contemptuous thing you like. We never judge(d) your convictions. But, you conduct that behaviour. Always...

The vicious cycyle is... obvious if you have an average memory. The previous one began with Hercules's post about how he is not interested in Dream Theater and prefers Haken and Riverside any day. You ridiculed his statement and said that they are influenced by DT. I replied to your posts. And the vicious cycle began... and lasted very long. It always happens concerning my talks with you, especially when there's an obvious dissension...

I really hope that "you're done". But I unfortunately highly doubt it. My previous experiences hints the opposite.


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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

^ And Hercules can reply to you too. Please do not continue this vicious cycle. Please...

I don't know what you're talking about. 
What vicious cycle? 

I was done with this poll, I only said Dark Elf's remark was exaggerated. He did not even come back to the poll to give me a reply. And I'm fine with that. He spoke his mind, I spoke mine. That's all. 
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^ And Hercules can reply to you too. Please do not continue this vicious cycle. Please...

Edited by Archisorcerus - May 30 2023 at 14:33
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

His right to an opinion was never in question. 
 

You're not even an admin. Whether you question The Dark Elf's statement or not makes no difference.

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Just that what he said is a sarcastic exaggeration, that's all. 

What he said is his opinion. You're a metal head, right? Is that really an extreme statement for you? Come on, you must have seen bazillion times harsher comments in the metal world.

You misunderstood. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

His right to an opinion was never in question. 
 

You're not even an admin. Whether you question The Dark Elf's statement or not makes no difference.

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Just that what he said is a sarcastic exaggeration, that's all. 

What he said is his opinion. You're a metal head, right? Is that really an extreme statement for you? Come on, you must have seen bazillion times harsher comments in the metal world.

As for the topic, I practically hate PF. Haha. So, Operation: Mindcrime gets my vote; it is a great album!

Kinda on-and-off the topic; Geoff Tate is (actually was) a phenomenal singer IMO. 

Just check this live performance of his out:
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absolutely no contest. The Wall is an absolute masterpiece. And I could never get into Queensryche
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Thank god for that. I've never been a fan of caterwauling. 

That's quite an exaggeration and a rather mean one Disapprove

The Dark Elf is entitled to his/her opinion, however wrong it may be.

His right to an opinion was never in question. 
Just that what he said is a sarcastic exaggeration, that's all. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Thank god for that. I've never been a fan of caterwauling. 

That's quite an exaggeration and a rather mean one Disapprove

The Dark Elf is entitled to his/her opinion, however wrong it may be.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Thank god for that. I've never been a fan of caterwauling. 

That's quite an exaggeration and a rather mean one Disapprove


Edited by Cristi - May 30 2023 at 01:05
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

And in regards to "Comfortably Numb" and "Run Like Hell", there are no songs on Operation: Mindcrime that come even close to that level of greatness. So, there's that. 

In my opinion, there are.

Livecrime is as epic a concert video as any out there. Plus, there are no vocals on this level to be found on The Wall.

Thank god for that. I've never been a fan of caterwauling.

That's a strange way to refer to Geoff Tate's and Pamela Moore's capabilities, if I ever heard one.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

And in regards to "Comfortably Numb" and "Run Like Hell", there are no songs on Operation: Mindcrime that come even close to that level of greatness. So, there's that. 

In my opinion, there are.

Livecrime is as epic a concert video as any out there. Plus, there are no vocals on this level to be found on The Wall.

Thank god for that. I've never been a fan of caterwauling. 
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^ Oh that whole record was all over the air in '80 (and '82 as well.)
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People talk about how much Dark Side is overplayed. Well, Comfortably Numb isn't far behind in the overplayed category. 
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