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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Cool interview. The Peppers first album was 1984. So it's not Mars Volta he was referring to. Maybe Rush?

Is it just me or does AK look like Hitler?

It could be the Mars Volta (especially since their music seems to qualify as "crazy"). I kind of doubt they were listening to prog in the 80s. John Frusciante is apparently a bit of a prog head and even played with The Mars Volta (as a guest and not a full time member I think) so it's likely the rest of the band were introduced to prog through him. The other musicians came from more of a rap, funk or even punk background. 

Anyway, you're right there is a resemblence to Hitler. I'm not sure why he chose to have a mustache. It's not quite the same. The guy from Sparks has the real Hitler mustache. 


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Cool interview. The Peppers first album was 1984. So it's not Mars Volta he was referring to. Maybe Rush?

Is it just me or does AK look like Hitler?

It could be the Mars Volta (especially since their music seems to qualify as "crazy"). I kind of doubt they were listening to prog in the 80s. John Frusciante is apparently a bit of a prog head and even played with The Mars Volta (as a guest and not a full time member I think) so it's likely the rest of the band were introduced to prog through him. The other musicians came from more of a rap, funk or even punk background. 

Anyway, you're right there is a resemblence to Hitler. I'm not sure why he chose to have a mustache. It's not quite the same. The guy from Sparks has the real Hitler mustache. 

I actually just found out from my brother who is a big RHCP fan (he listens to their channel on Sirius XM) that Anthony Kiedis said John Frusciante was listening to Yes before recording the last RHCP album. However, other than maybe Relayer I don't see how Yes is "crazy." 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2023 at 04:13
I mean, they are professional musicians, they may know a lot of stuff. Why not Gentle Giant or even things like Magma or Henry Cow? Also of course Zappa more likely than not. By the way, to somebody socialised on completely different things, much of Yes can be quite crazy at first contact. Kiedis is born in 62 though; prog should've been almost mainstream in his childhood/youth. Maybe he says "crazy" half-ironically because he thinks some of the younger generation would see it like that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2023 at 04:47
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

I mean, they are professional musicians, they may know a lot of stuff. Why not Gentle Giant or even things like Magma or Henry Cow? Also of course Zappa more likely than not. By the way, to somebody socialised on completely different things, much of Yes can be quite crazy at first contact. Kiedis is born in 62 though; prog should've been almost mainstream in his childhood/youth. Maybe he says "crazy" half-ironically because he thinks some of the younger generation would see it like that.
Zappa for sure and possibly Captain Beefheart. I'd also throw Primus in their "crazy prog" influences bucket.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mathman0806 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2023 at 05:24
Primus would be a contemporary or arguably a follower as they were part of the Bay Area funk-rock-metal scene from the late 80's. RHCP being an influence on that scene.

I've read Frusciante referring to Yes. Zappa, KC as influences.

From Wikipedia:

Although Hendrix and Slovak were arguably Frusciante's most profound influences, he was also inspired by glam rock artists David Bowie, and T. Rex; as well as avant-garde acts such as Syd Barrett, Captain Beefheart, the Residents, the Velvet Underground, Neu!, Frank Zappa, and Kraftwerk.[3][7][116][117] Frusciante seems to be much influenced by progressive rock acts like Genesis, King Crimson, and Yes, mentioning them in multiple interviews.[118][119] Frusciante wrote an essay for the Yes box set, The Word Is Live, released in 2005.
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Earlier today I was in a Kohls (clothing / department store) and saw a guy wearing a Yes t shirt. This happened to me once before but this time the guy actually talked to me and wasn't rude. He was wearing a Yessongs t shirt. I chatted with him for a few minutes and it turns out he is aware of this site. He mentioned Porcupine Tree but come everyone knows Porcupine Tree. Lol. Anyway, it's good to run into fellow prog fans even if by accident. Of course we chatted for a bit about Yes and solo related stuff. He mentioned to me about Jon Anderson and the band geeks which I wasn't too aware of. 

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Just before I went up to visit my dad for the superbowl I stopped in at this record store I know of (they sell mostly cds but vinyl also). I was only in there for about a minute when I overheard the store clerk mention to someone something about Van Der Graaf Generator (it sounded like he said blah blah blah this obscure band called Van Der Graaf Generator). Just to make sure I wasn't hearing things I asked him about it and sure enough he did mention them to someone although I never found out the context. We talked briefly about prog. I asked him if he knew of any modern prog bands and the only one he mentioned was Liquid Tension Experiment although he did seem to know Porcupine Tree (and Steven Wilson) and Opeth. I actually saw a VDGG cd there and bought it (among other non prog stuff). 

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I'm noticing a LOT of Queen on US telly for advert soundtracks!!  Newly popular??


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^Maybe you don't watch much tv, but Queen has been flooding tv commercials for the past six years (at least). I especially noticed it after the movie Bohemian Rhapsody. If I were to guess I would say at least ten Queen songs were in at least ten different commercials.

On a totally different note I was thinking recently about how I saw someone on the PBS tv show Antiques Road Show a long time ago hold up a copy of In The Court Of The Crimson King. For some reason I was having trouble with my sound and picture on the tv at the time so I only caught a little bit of it and didn't hear what they said. I mentioned this to my mom because she's a big fan of PBS but she doesn't watch that show much.


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I heard From The Beginning by ELP on my town's local radio.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Formentera Lady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2023 at 09:40
The golden Adam Warlock of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 loves Adrian Belew and King Crimson! LOL

And Adrian Belew's reaction to it:
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^When I watched the movie and he said "I'd have to go with Adrian Belew; for both his solo material, and, his work..." I finished it out loud and said along with him, "in KING CRIMSON."
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Very probably just a coincidence, but there is a little known Avant-Prog/ jazz-rock band called SOT from Norway and they have a track I like that was released as a single called "Soma Forms" in 2020 which features the tuba. It might have been because I was listening to it so recently, but I was in a public restroom and it sounded like someone was playing the tuba in one of the stalls (stranger things have happened). This tuba, if it was a tuba (surely it wasn't a french horn) sounded very much like the tuba in "Soma Forms" from about the 1:12 to 1:50 mark and then again at about the 3:05 mark.



If not a rendition of that, it still seems an eerie coincidence. I guess it was more like snippets of the tuba bits, really, but very reminiscent. It’s hard to tell, however, because he played very loose and sloppy, hit some sour notes and a really bum note at the end.

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Two tracks per many of my fave acts: A Youtube Playlist
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^Maybe you don't watch much tv,

I don't watch much conventional TV!  Just happened to notice on one of the rare moments I tuned it.  

You may have noticed this....



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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^When I watched the movie and he said "I'd have to go with Adrian Belew; for both his solo material, and, his work..." I finished it out loud and said along with him, "in KING CRIMSON."

They should have said "Adrian Belew from King Crimson..." in the movie because I don't think your average person would know who Adrian Belew is. Then again your average person might not know who King Crimson is also but I think more people would know or at least heard of King Crimson than just Adrian Belew. Maybe part of this is because Adrian is no longer in KC so maybe legally they couldn't say it that way. I don't know. I haven't seen the movie anyway though.


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^I believe part of the humor of that line was the relative obscurity of the artist picked by the character.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^I believe part of the humor of that line was the relative obscurity of the artist picked by the character.

Ok, so did the character actually mention King Crimson or not?
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Pleasantly surprised to hear Pink Floyd - Wot's uh the Deal in a Starbucks. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Archisorcerus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2023 at 09:11
There's a place called Dürüm Theater in Eskişehir/Turkey. Dürüm means wrap (food). Well, kinda "cheap" humour for me.

Is this counted as "prog in an unexpected place"? Clown

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lofty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2023 at 11:52
Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

^When I watched the movie and he said "I'd have to go with Adrian Belew; for both his solo material, and, his work..." I finished it out loud and said along with him, "in KING CRIMSON."

I did get a kick out of that. Not too sure anyone else with me got the reference!
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