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    Posted: July 05 2023 at 09:57
Today my friend played me some music, when I asked her what it was she claimed it was Marillion. It definitely wasn't Marillion but she just played that on her phone and the filename was Marillion. The song lasted for circa 20 minutes and it was heavily based on Hammond organ. It started softly, like some Procol Harum but then there was madness, crazy like Van der Graaf Generator, even heavier. The insane Hammond phrase was repeated over and over again, the vocals were quite aggressive. The singer even sounded like Fish at one point. But it wasn't Marillion. What it was then? Maybe some prog expert will tell me. I believe it was from the 70's but not really sure.
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So, there's this little app called Shazam. Use it while having your friend play their phone and...SHAZAM ! the band and title should pop up.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2023 at 10:35
I think you may have answered your own question - sounds like Van Der Graaf Generator

Fish was prone to sounding like Pete Hammill at times and was heavily influenced by him.
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I'm familiar with VDGG and all those popular prog bands. It must be something not so popular. I don't know. That's why I'm asking.
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Do you recall any of the lyrics?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2023 at 11:02
Without hearing what you heard I have no clue.......prog polka maybe?? LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2023 at 11:12
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I think you may have answered your own question - sounds like Van Der Graaf Generator

Fish was prone to sounding like Pete Hammill at times and was heavily influenced by him.

Yep. Sounds like maybe "Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" although I don't think there's any crazy hammond organ on that. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2023 at 11:17
If it was played from a file, wasn't there a tag in the file with the artist's name? If not, Shazam is probably the answer.
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The lyrics? No, not really. I remember the first part of the song was rather soft. Then it became heavy, that was really aggressive but also repetitive. It was definitely in the 70's style but maybe the band wasn't that old. I don't know. It wasn't bluesy or jazzy, it was rock driven Hammond organ extravaganza. It was in fact as aggressive as heavy metal but it wasn't metal. The vocals, firstly soft later became aggressive too. The problem is, that it didn't sound like anything else, I mean that heavy part. I mentioned VDGG cos that was the closest thing that came to my mind, there's that insane part in Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. But I think it was less chaotic. The rhythm section got something to do with Uriah Heep, it was rather fast. I mean, it definitely wasn't a top 20 prog band. I think the key may be vocals and the length (how many 20 minute long suites do we have?). 
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^ Atomic Rooster? Heavy 70s band with a lot of B3.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angelo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2023 at 16:08
Beardfish perhaps? "If we must be apart" for example has quite a few of the elements you mentions, although it's only 15 minute slong.

Edited by Angelo - July 05 2023 at 16:10
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Suggestion :
Band : Rare Bird : UK 1970 LP : As your mind flies by Track : Flight a near 20 minutes epic in four parts ( 1.As your mind flies by 2.Vacuum 3.New Yorker 4.Central Park)
...full of Hammond
A band from The Famous Charisma Label team


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sfzY7DmX5w

Sorry i don't know how to upload active links :-(
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Necrotica Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2023 at 19:43
Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sfzY7DmX5w

Sorry i don't know how to upload active links :-(

Wow, that sounds a lot like what LSDisease was describing! Smile
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Originally posted by Necrotica Necrotica wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sfzY7DmX5w

Sorry i don't know how to upload active links :-(


Wow, that sounds a lot like what LSDisease was describing! Smile



I shazamed my song proposition from minute 7.35 on and it has been quickly and correctly identified as Rare Bird's Flight



Edited by mellotronwave - July 06 2023 at 02:02
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I think you may have answered your own question - sounds like Van Der Graaf Generator

Fish was prone to sounding like Pete Hammill at times and was heavily influenced by him.


Yep. Sounds like maybe "Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" although I don't think there's any crazy hammond organ on that. 




I agree, Hammond is of course present but PoaLK is not a Hammond centered epic.
Hammill' vox and Jaxon's saxophones are more obvious features of VDGG 70' era music.

Edited by mellotronwave - July 06 2023 at 02:08
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Manuel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2023 at 05:45
As mentioned before, it's hard to know without listening to it. So many prog songs could fit that description.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LSDisease Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2023 at 05:56
It's not Rare Bird, thanks for posting though, it's a very good song. I think the band I'm looking for is most likely British. Can be German though. I remember Birth Control's Operation and Hoodoo Man, that was pretty intense. I try to find something that's similar but it's not that easy. There's a song by Birth Control called Just Before the Sun Will Rise, you got this fast snare drum tempo and organ on the top of that. It was also in the same mood. Starts at 2:00 add aggressive vocals and well... It was that tempo, go fast then pause, then fast again. 

Anyway I'll shazam the song when she's back from Norway.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mellotronwave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2023 at 06:42
Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

It's not Rare Bird, thanks for posting though, it's a very good song. I think the band I'm looking for is most likely British. Can be German though. I remember Birth Control's Operation and Hoodoo Man, that was pretty intense. I try to find something that's similar but it's not that easy. There's a song by Birth Control called Just Before the Sun Will Rise, you got this fast snare drum tempo and organ on the top of that. It was also in the same mood. Starts at 2:00 add aggressive vocals and well... It was that tempo, go fast then pause, then fast again. 

Anyway I'll shazam the song when she's back from Norway.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mellotronwave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2023 at 08:10
Other suggestions :

German band called SIXTY-NINE : Keys/Drums duo , lot of Hammond ( Armin Stöwe) of course, long tracks but shorter than 20 minutes. I heave their live record (double LP) , frenzy Hammond

UK band Quatermass , I have the first LP ( as a CD) , Trio with lot of Hammond by J. Robertson (later with Brand X , with Bowie (Low), ... ), mid-length tracks (8/10 minutes) , never listen to their 2nd LP

to be continued..
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Edited by mellotronwave - July 06 2023 at 08:12
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