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    Posted: July 19 2023 at 17:30
Whaddya know, another list......LOL
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It's a pretty good list, don't know why Tool and Mars Volta are so high but it's nice and varied and international
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Yea kinda thought the same about Tool, also why my fooking amazing CAN is rather low...I did appreciate the international flavor as well.
Not a bad list at all.
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Better than the usual fluff. I agree the variety is nice. I actually love albums from every artist listed!
Of course nobody is going to agree on every band included but not bad!
KC instead of Yes as #1 was a surprise.

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Better than the usual fluff. I agree the variety is nice. I actually love albums from every artist listed!
Of course nobody is going to agree on every band included but not bad!
KC instead of Yes as #1 was a surprise.
Yea was expecting to see either Genesis or Yes as numero uno.......
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It's alright. Of course everyone''s list would be different, and I would question putting some bands being over other ones. What I do like most is in the intro:

Originally posted by UCR UCR wrote:

As we all know, every music critic's "best of" piece is created through rigorous experiments, with the results reviewed by a body of one's peers.

Just kidding. Turns out this list of the 50 Best Progressive Rock Artists was based on opinion, not objective fact. There is no guidebook or grand methodology: We didn't force ourselves to shoehorn in a certain number of acts from a particular style or era; we didn't consult Metacritic or the Billboard charts; we didn't require a band to have multiple Minimoogs in their keyboard rigs. We just thought about it a lot — and ultimately went with our gut.....


The top five and King Crimson at number one did not surprise me. I do think KC more deserving than Yes because I do think it has been more progressive, which included being varied in approach. And I don't think it ever sunk to the same lows as Yes or Genesis which were very low indeed, imo.

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Yeah...it's a decent list. I do like the going with your gut methodology. Though I have to watch mine, been packing on the pounds lately.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The top five and King Crimson at number one did not surprise me. I do think KC more deserving than Yes because I do think it has been more progressive, which included being varied in approach. And I don't think it ever sunk to the same lows as Yes or Genesis which were very low indeed, imo.


That's an EXCELLENT point. A prog artist should be calculated in its greatness by the average sum of its totality. KC never released anything as horrible as Genesis and even though i like pop Yes, KC does rule as far as prog longevity NOT to mention they got it started in 69 as a real movement.

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Bah!  As usual, they give short-shrift to jazz-rock fusion!  

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^ unfortunately many don't consider jazz fusion as prog. They consider that its own separate category. I would gladly trade Haken for the Mahavishnus!

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^ No way. TMO might have been more important from a formational perspective, but Haken compose actual songs. Fortunately you usually don't have to apply this zero-sum mentality in music, so I'm glad I can simply listen to both Smile
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ unfortunately many don't consider jazz fusion as prog. They consider that its own separate category. I would gladly trade Haken for the Mahavishnus!
I'd rather have both, since both are pretty important acts. And also I like them, so there.
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An interesting list - turns out that I'm only listening to 8 of the listed artists on a regular basis:

1. King Crimson
2. Pink Floyd
3. Frank Zappa
4. Van der Graaf Generator
5. Opeth
6. Magma
7. Porcupine Tree
8. Haken

Given my extensive collection, that leaves out a lot of really great prog artists. Goes to show how many great bands there are ... here's some of my very favorite artists that are missing. And of course I'm not supposing that these artists should also be *YOUR* favorite prog artists - I have various biases :-) 

1. Steven Wilson
2. Dream Theater
3. Devin Townsend
4. Ayreon
5. Neal Morse
6. Pain of Salvation
7. Mr. Bungle
8. Big Big Train
9. Between the Buied and Me
10. Mike Keneally
11. Symphony X
12. John Zorn
14. Shadow Gallery
15. Threshold
16. IQ
17. Heaven's Cry
18. Kayo Dot
19. Queensryche
20. Roine Stolt
21. The Decemberists
22. Gojira
23. Anathema
24. Katatonia
25. The Gathering
26. Liquid Tension Experiment
27. Radiohead
28. Beyond Twilight
29. Fates Warning
30. Steve Vai
31. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
32. Cynic
33. Headspace
34. Mogwai
35. Crippled Black Phoenix
36. Riverside
37. The Flower Kings
38. Oceansize
39. Beardfish
40. Heart of Cygnus
41. Amplifier
42. King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard


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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ No way. TMO might have been more important from a formational perspective, but Haken compose actual songs. Fortunately you usually don't have to apply this zero-sum mentality in music, so I'm glad I can simply listen to both Smile


Haken is woefully overrated to my ears. As a musician i can hear too many blatant rif offs from other artists. The Mountain is the worst offender of all. To me a band that hits a list like this must be totally original. Haken isn't even a blip on my radar although i like a few albums. Another one i would totally ditch is Coheed and Cambria. In this case i just don't think they're of the same caliber as the other artists listed. Just my personal choice :)

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^ Interesting - what would be the most evident ripped-off tracks for The Mountain?
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Tool?! Come on , What was their measure?! Progressive Rock top 50 list with Tool and without Mahavishnu Orchestra!!! Where is KC and Sunshine band?!!!
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^ Interesting - what would be the most evident ripped-off tracks for The Mountain?


Most obvious? Gentle Giant. I just revisited that album recently to see if i changed my mind. I like it less every time i hear it. I do like the first two albums and "Virus." They're just too inconsistent for my ears but i do understand that they are popular :)

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Tool?! Come on , What was their measure?! Progressive Rock top 50 list with Tool and without Mahavishnu Orchestra!!! Where is KC and Sunshine band?!!!


I can understand why Tool was added even if i'm not the hugest Tool fan. I do like their albums though. Tool was instrumental in marrying prog with alternative rock which fit in perfect with the 90s. Their sound was totally original at the time and even though it sounds repetitive a lot of the time, it's loaded with subtleties that made them quite innovative. The time signature changes are of the chart

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Looks quite good to me if using a more strict definition of Progressive Rock, even I would not include Supertramp.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Interesting - what would be the most evident ripped-off tracks for The Mountain?


Most obvious? Gentle Giant. I just revisited that album recently to see if i changed my mind. I like it less every time i hear it. I do like the first two albums and "Virus." They're just too inconsistent for my ears but i do understand that they are popular :)

Gentle Giant? Knots/Cockroach King, I can see that. But many bands are doing vocal fugues in that style. And GG hardly invented that, it dates back to one J.S. Bach Wink
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