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I would've included my own personal Top 50 prog favorites, but I'll save myself the crimson-cheeked embarrassment of getting laughed at for not including King Crimson. Tongue
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Looks quite good to me if using a more strict definition of Progressive Rock, even I would not include Supertramp.

I would include though Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return to Forever, as I don't see them to be less Progressive Rock than Soft Machine, Gong, Can, Tangerine Dream or Tool.

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Gentle Giant? Knots/Cockroach King, I can see that. But many bands are doing vocal fugues in that style. And GG hardly invented that, it dates back to one J.S. Bach Wink


Actually J. S. Bach was the master of instrumental fugue. The Swingle Singers made vocal cover versions.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

An interesting list - turns out that I'm only listening to 8 of the listed artists on a regular basis:

While I can tell that 38 artists from the list are represented in my rather small collection, and I listen to I guess all of them at list once in a while.

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Originally posted by terramystic terramystic wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Gentle Giant? Knots/Cockroach King, I can see that. But many bands are doing vocal fugues in that style. And GG hardly invented that, it dates back to one J.S. Bach Wink


Actually J. S. Bach was the master of instrumental fugue. The Swingle Singers made vocal cover versions.


Sure, musically there is no difference, it was the fugue I was referring to, not the choice of instrument.

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Most of the usual suspects are there and I have no issue with the Top 3 or the order. As usual I would switch Camel and ELP round, it now seems quite normal to push ELP down a bit and Camel up a bit. Some revisionism going on there. ELP were far more important and were there at the beginning if you consider their previous bands. Camel tagged along for the ride but still worth a place in the top 50. 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by terramystic terramystic wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Gentle Giant? Knots/Cockroach King, I can see that. But many bands are doing vocal fugues in that style. And GG hardly invented that, it dates back to one J.S. Bach Wink


Actually J. S. Bach was the master of instrumental fugue. The Swingle Singers made vocal cover versions.


Sure, musically there is no difference, it was the fugue I was referring to, not the choice of instrument.


The difference is pillaging from a classical composer from hundreds of years ago is what prog is all about (along with jazz). Pillaging from artists of the same era is more blatantly apparent. Also i find most Haken compositions underwhelming. I don't get the appeal. Always a few great tracks and then a bunch of fluff.

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The list is missing a band from Spanish speaking countries to be considered really international, or Portuguese and Japanese for that matter. There are better choices to be made, that's for sure, but a list is just that and not everybody share the same exact taste.
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^ true but i don't think it's about being all inclusive. It's a list about celebrating those who made the most impact on the prog world. Like it or not England by far dominated this world for the majority of prog history and even now is still spawning excellent acts. Overall i think it's a pretty decent list in doing that with only a very few head scratchers. For example i would never consider Manfred Mann's Earth Band to be worthy of being on a list like this but whatever!

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by terramystic terramystic wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Gentle Giant? Knots/Cockroach King, I can see that. But many bands are doing vocal fugues in that style. And GG hardly invented that, it dates back to one J.S. Bach Wink


Actually J. S. Bach was the master of instrumental fugue. The Swingle Singers made vocal cover versions.


Sure, musically there is no difference, it was the fugue I was referring to, not the choice of instrument.


The difference is pillaging from a classical composer from hundreds of years ago is what prog is all about (along with jazz). Pillaging from artists of the same era is more blatantly apparent. Also i find most Haken compositions underwhelming. I don't get the appeal. Always a few great tracks and then a bunch of fluff.
I understand that it’s inspired by Gentle Giant, but it’s fully possible to come up with a song such as «Cockroach King» without even having heard «Knots». I don’t know, these negative or positive reactions towards certain hommages/pillaging mostly seem to be about personal biases. For instance, because of Icarum’s Daal vs Univers Zero I came across some of your five star praising of the former bands releases. Great stuff, but hardly an original idea to find as far i I could hear. They certainly wear their Goblin and King Crimson inspiration on their sleeve, and remind me of many of the darker sounding (French) prog bands of the late 1970’s. Btw: I'm indifferent to Haken but they seem dedicated at what they do.
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QUOTE it’s fully possible to come up with a song such as «Cockroach King» without even having heard «Knots» QUOTE

Not a chance. They have GG influences everywhere. That's just the most blatant. They also rip of Porcupine Tree, Van Der GG, etc. Personally i'm not impressed. Sure they do a decent job at it but do they deserve to be on a top prog band list of all time? I don't. Even Anglagard or Wobbler would've been a better pick simply for reinvigorating prog in a way that sounds fresh despite the apparent influences.

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The list should've included the Cardiacs! The most famous and best at fusing prog and punk.

Also Univers Zero for its amazing chamber prog would've been great too.

I don't think Eloy is worthy either actually. Too Pink Floyd all the time.

I would've added Hatfield & the North which created one of the highest possible expressions of 70s prog.

I wouldn't mind seeing their list expand to 100!

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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ No way. TMO might have been more important from a formational perspective, but Haken compose actual songs. Fortunately you usually don't have to apply this zero-sum mentality in music, so I'm glad I can simply listen to both Smile

Ummmm.....THIS is an actual composed song, and it is progressive as hell!  Dig the choral vocals! 


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

The list should've included the Cardiacs! The most famous and best at fusing prog and punk.

Also Univers Zero for its amazing chamber prog would've been great too.

I don't think Eloy is worthy either actually. Too Pink Floyd all the time.

I would've added Hatfield & the North which created one of the highest possible expressions of 70s prog.

I wouldn't mind seeing their list expand to 100!

I would certainly have included those 3, and near the top.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

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QUOTE it’s fully possible to come up with a song such as «Cockroach King» without even having heard «Knots» QUOTE

Not a chance. They have GG influences everywhere. That's just the most blatant. They also rip of Porcupine Tree, Van Der GG, etc. Personally i'm not impressed. Sure they do a decent job at it but do they deserve to be on a top prog band list of all time? I don't.
No at all - not to my ears. What I've heard by them wouldn't qualify in for a top 500 (neither would Porcupine Tree). I just don't have a problem with what they do. But my point was that in other cases you're obviously ok with "pillaging and ripping off". I think is Cockroach King alright. Entertaining. Like with Daal's music, it's its own creation enough for me. One of the more refreshing song I know by them really. Their fans seem to love it, and it has undoubtly helped getting Gentle Giant a few more well deserved fans too. Gotta like that.


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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

An interesting list - turns out that I'm only listening to 8 of the listed artists on a regular basis:

1. King Crimson
2. Pink Floyd
3. Frank Zappa
4. Van der Graaf Generator
5. Opeth
6. Magma
7. Porcupine Tree
8. Haken

Given my extensive collection, that leaves out a lot of really great prog artists. Goes to show how many great bands there are ... here's some of my very favorite artists that are missing. And of course I'm not supposing that these artists should also be *YOUR* favorite prog artists - I have various biases :-) 

1. Steven Wilson
2. Dream Theater
3. Devin Townsend
4. Ayreon
5. Neal Morse
6. Pain of Salvation
7. Mr. Bungle
8. Big Big Train
9. Between the Buied and Me
10. Mike Keneally
11. Symphony X
12. John Zorn
14. Shadow Gallery
15. Threshold
16. IQ
17. Heaven's Cry
18. Kayo Dot
19. Queensryche
20. Roine Stolt
21. The Decemberists
22. Gojira
23. Anathema
24. Katatonia
25. The Gathering
26. Liquid Tension Experiment
27. Radiohead
28. Beyond Twilight
29. Fates Warning
30. Steve Vai
31. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
32. Cynic
33. Headspace
34. Mogwai
35. Crippled Black Phoenix
36. Riverside
37. The Flower Kings
38. Oceansize
39. Beardfish
40. Heart of Cygnus
41. Amplifier
42. King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard



Nice list!!!

It’s criminal that IQ and DT are not in that top 50!
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

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QUOTE it’s fully possible to come up with a song such as «Cockroach King» without even having heard «Knots» QUOTE

Not a chance. They have GG influences everywhere. That's just the most blatant. They also rip of Porcupine Tree, Van Der GG, etc. Personally i'm not impressed. Sure they do a decent job at it but do they deserve to be on a top prog band list of all time? I don't. Even Anglagard or Wobbler would've been a better pick simply for reinvigorating prog in a way that sounds fresh despite the apparent influences.
I tend to agree about Haken here, I am not sure about the GG rip off as I'm not a GG listener I may have to try that comparison. I would agree more if the UCR said they picked Haken due to the first 2-3 albums as the last ones have been heavy thrashy metal-prog kinda.....I'm not a fan anymore. For me the Mountain is what I like about Haken and the first two records.
Of all these lists that have come out I am feeling this one is close to the best coming from UCR writers. You could use the list to listen to the core of what progressive rock is all about. I would not have included Coheed as well....I liken them to more emo metal than prog. The storylines Claudio writes are pretty good and the mainstream consider them prog...but I don't.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Tool?! Come on , What was their measure?! Progressive Rock top 50 list with Tool and without Mahavishnu Orchestra!!! Where is KC and Sunshine band?!!!


I can understand why Tool was added even if i'm not the hugest Tool fan. I do like their albums though. Tool was instrumental in marrying prog with alternative rock which fit in perfect with the 90s. Their sound was totally original at the time and even though it sounds repetitive a lot of the time, it's loaded with subtleties that made them quite innovative. The time signature changes are of the chart

More or less I agree with you and I didn't mean Tool is not Prog or Bad . Its about TOP 50 of Progressive Rock artists and I stand on my opinion : Tool don't one of top 50 Progressive Rock band/Artists ever.
Is Flower Kings JR/Fusion? are you sure tool progger than them?
I think (apart of top 5 ) this list is funny 
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The list is quite ok in terms of bands, there are some nice inclusions which are often missing from such lists.
Surely Dream Theater should be there, as the ones who popularized Prog Metal. 
Possibly IQ as well as they have been the staple of Neo Prog, with hindsight possibly even more than Marillion.
And ELP should be much higher as they were among the big 5 when in their peak, but yeah, we are already used to that aren't we?

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