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Originally posted by Themistocles Themistocles wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

So what do you guys think is the most underrated or underappreciated Rush album? I would say either Presto, Hold Your Fire or Test For Echo. I could say Roll the Bones but that one actually went platinum (as did Fly by Night).


For me it is Test for Echo. I listen to it frequently and it is a great sounding album. Mixed by Andy Wallace and recorded at Bearville none of the albums after it sound as good.


nowadays Grace Under Pressure. At the time many fans didn't like the direction they were taking but I think the cold war themes they utilised on this album have aged well and seem just as relevant as ever. Generally I like most Rush , nothing that I want to hate on. They did get a bit 'meh' around Presto but I think they were fatigued after making 7 albums in just 10 years and with the constant touring needed to rethink their scheldule a bit. I like all the 90's albums, some don't like the grungy sound of Test For Echo but I like it about the same as other albums around that time. Vapor Trails always sounded fine to me but I know that's been a bone of contention over the years!
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

So what do you guys think is the most underrated or underappreciated Rush album? I would say either Presto, Hold Your Fire or Test For Echo. I could say Roll the Bones but that one actually went platinum (as did Fly by Night).


For me it is Test for Echo. I listen to it frequently and it is a great sounding album. Mixed by Andy Wallace and recorded at Bearville none of the albums after it sound as good.
Sjå, my first album in 25+ years is out now: https://jeffjahn.bandcamp.com/album/sj   I am told its quite original
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Didnt get into Rush until college, probably because of an old band mate in middle school who said Tom Sawyer was my personal theme song (this was in 1985). Im still not claiming that it is but Im incredibly fond of the song and band. According to my listening habits they are the band I most listen to and it is usually the live albums so Im excited about all the live content. Caught them on the Roll the Bones tour back in the day.

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Sjå, my first album in 25+ years is out now: https://jeffjahn.bandcamp.com/album/sj   I am told its quite original
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I thought hard about the 7-LP set but really nothing there that peaks my interest. The main issue with Rush is there really is nothing in the "vault". About all I can see getting is different live shows throughout the touring career. I have several Rush live albums already.

But am always looking at what my fav band of all time might release.
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Pass. We were all waiting for the Grace Deluxe Anniversary Edition, and it didn't happen.
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Even if it is Rush, live albums are a hard sell for me. Reissued live albums as a set with a couple of edits or extra songs are not super-tempting for me.
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Rush are releasing their "first ever" box set in March, including a $375 Backstage exclusive super deluxe set. 

his Rush Backstage Super Deluxe Exclusive contains a bonus pack of 4 lithos! Rush Backstage is the only place you can receive this special offer.

Celebrate 50 years of RUSH with their first-ever complete career anthology. 50 tracks on 4 CDs and 7 180g LPs featuring selections from every studio, live and deluxe reissue album. Igniting the experience are the very first two singles "Not Fade Away" and "You Can't Fight It" remastered & reissued for the first time ever. The collection showcases 7 unreleased tracks including five 1974 live selections with the non-album songs "Bad Boy" and "Garden Road," a Vault Edition of "The Trees" with an alternate guitar solo, and the very last performance with Neil Peart in Los Angeles on August 1, 2015 of "What You're Doing / Working Man / Garden Road." The 104-page hardcover book features new Hugh Syme 50th anniversary artwork along with stunning new song illustrations, photos and liner notes by renowned rock journalists David Fricke and Philip Wilding. Exclusive to this Super Deluxe are 20 lithos illustrating one song from each studio album and a second 100-page hardcover book The Fullness Of Time, a brand-new graphic novel by Fantoons storytelling a conversation by Geddy & Alex reminiscing on the trials, tribulations and successes recording each studio album and how the band's sound evolved with contributions from the producers and engineers the band worked with on their studio albums. Exclusive to this Backstage Edition are 4 bonus lithos!

There is also a $250 7LP version and a $100 4 CD version. 

As a fan and a collector this is tempting, but really nothing I find worthwhile to make me want to fork out the additional bucks to make one of these part of my collection.

What thinks the rest of you?


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Under appreciated by the masses to me would be Presto. All the songs hold their own, but none are mega standout songs. I saw that tour back in like '90 in Maryland, the setlist during that era was kinda strange as the Presto songs did not marry up well with Hemispheres or AFTK.......It was the era where people were getting into Rush but because of Signals not because of CoS or 2112.


I think "Show Don't Tell" is a standout and better than anything on Roll the Bones. It got substantial airplay till "The Pass" was released as a single. The Presto songs all sounded much better live (I saw them in Los Angeles and San Diego on that tour), especially "Show Don't Tell"! One of my favorite basslines by Geddy, too.

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Under appreciated by the masses to me would be Presto. All the songs hold their own, but none are mega standout songs. I saw that tour back in like '90 in Maryland, the setlist during that era was kinda strange as the Presto songs did not marry up well with Hemispheres or AFTK.......It was the era where people were getting into Rush but because of Signals not because of CoS or 2112.

Things change over time and now because of the internet people get into bands through albums that they probably wouldn't have in the 80s or 90s. I would say these days most people are getting into Rush through Moving Pictures (and Yes through CTTE but this is a Rush thread Tongue).
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Under appreciated by the masses to me would be Presto. All the songs hold their own, but none are mega standout songs. I saw that tour back in like '90 in Maryland, the setlist during that era was kinda strange as the Presto songs did not marry up well with Hemispheres or AFTK.......It was the era where people were getting into Rush but because of Signals not because of CoS or 2112.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Caress of Steel usually is viewed unfavorably. I think it's a great album.

CoS is definitely underrated and underappreciated. Not by me of course though. Big smile
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"I think I'm going bald" is almost like the Rush equivalent of "Harold the Barrell" or "Get em out by Friday." It's a song that you can't really take too seriously even if it's not overtly comical like those Genesis songs. I suppose some people think "don't kill the whale" is kind of a dumb song too.
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I'm not much of a Rush fan (like some music but not a fan really), but I have loved Caress of Steel. Maybe something to do with me not counting myself as a Rush fan. "I Think I'm Going Bald" is a pretty unappreciated song (over or under I won't get into).

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^Caress of Steel usually is viewed unfavorably. I think it's a great album.
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So what do you guys think is the most underrated or underappreciated Rush album? I would say either Presto, Hold Your Fire or Test For Echo. I could say Roll the Bones but that one actually went platinum (as did Fly by Night).
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I think it will be very reminiscent of Geddy's solo album, maybe yacht rock LOL.


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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

My take? Geddy and Alex don't have to do squat. It's like a bunch of people expect them to get back out there, when that's not on either's agenda.

They already toured their behinds off. Geddy wrecked his voice. Personally, I'd rather he just play bass and leave the larynx slinging to someone else.

Like you say, they can record some new stuff in the studio with some different drummers (Matt Cameron, Mike Portnoy, Marco Minnemann, another drummer whose first name begins with M), and if anything materializes beyond that, great.

But they don't have to do squat. Especially not with their money!
For sure they don't need it for a paycheck, both are multi millionaires. I am sure they miss playing live, Geddy more than Alex and for sure more than Neil. There is so much yack on the web about it, and I have heard Geddy say he would like to play live again. Even the recent CBS Sunday Morning interview he said it but also said it's not a guarantee, anything is possible, I think that's as far as he has gone. I've not heard or read that he or Alex have said publicly they are looking for a drummer, I am sure privately they have talked about it......I don't think they use someone like Portnoy, I mean Alex did not use a "name brand drummer" for his record, they can get away with many session drummers that don't need the chops that Neil had, I just don't see them making that kind of music anymore. People think they are going to make the next La Villa Strangiato or Xanadu....I think it will be very reminiscent of Geddy's solo album, maybe yacht rock LOL.

Anyhow, it's nutz what people are saying like on FB.....
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

That's all good and well, but you know how these artistic types like to create. We've not heard the last from Geddy and Alex.


It doesn't mean they're going to mount a full-blown tour, and I doubt they want that. Maybe a few dates, including the belated tribute to Neil.
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That's all good and well, but you know how these artistic types like to create. We've not heard the last from Geddy and Alex.
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My take? Geddy and Alex don't have to do squat. It's like a bunch of people expect them to get back out there, when that's not on either's agenda.

They already toured their behinds off. Geddy wrecked his voice. Personally, I'd rather he just play bass and leave the larynx slinging to someone else.

Like you say, they can record some new stuff in the studio with some different drummers (Matt Cameron, Mike Portnoy, Marco Minnemann, another drummer whose first name begins with M), and if anything materializes beyond that, great.

But they don't have to do squat. Especially not with their money!
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