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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2024 at 08:01
^ Maybe you have too negative a view of covers?

Don't take them so seriously Cool



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2024 at 16:36
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

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Oh, I don't know....ELP's "Pictures at an Exhibition" was one long cover, yes?  
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Hi,

Bizarre notion .. to say the least, and it just shows how much "music" so many rock aficionados look at music history ... there are no less than at least 20/25 recordings of the whole thing that can be discussed, all of them, (many times) considered different interpretations, but all with the same title and "complete".

If there were versions by Leonard Bernstein or Herbert von Karahan, I would have them in my collection. 

It's tough saying this ... and when you see the live performance of Jeff Beck doing one of the best known arias, we still can not appreciate it, and still look at it as just another rock song solo and what not.

Please show how well versed you are in music ... instead of delineating something that is only a "cover" in rock terms because we dislike classical music and tend to shine on any band doing it. And before ELP's version, The Nice had also done many pieces of classical music.


How well-versed am I in music?  Not sure how to answer.  University studies in music (University of Illinois), former bandmate with Robert Fripp's GuitarCraft student (the amazing Lon Jones), I eschewed a career in professional music to pursue science and research.  Both exist comfortably in my mind.  I'm as good on electric guitar as many who are mentioned on this website.  

PA is not an academic research site, M, but a public forum.  Do you deny that ELP's "HoeDown" is a cover?  

I don't post past musical works online since I would need permission of many people to do so.  Let's just say that, when I pick up my Rickenbacker bass guitar, I warm up by playing Chris Squire bass lines such as CTTE.  
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have this picture of Axltl Rose instead:


Edited by Hrychu - April 18 2024 at 18:46
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I like Humble Pie.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Please help the music ... not make it look like it is a left over ... that you throw at the dog or cat, or chickens, or pig! Cry

You are, hands down, the most negative person in this forum when it comes to judging musicians and their fans.

EDIT: At least that's how I perceive it. You do you of course, but sometimes I think you could filter out some of the negativity in your posts and focus on the positive aspects.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2024 at 07:06
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Please help the music ... not make it look like it is a left over ... that you throw at the dog or cat, or chickens, or pig! Cry

You are, hands down, the most negative person in this forum when it comes to judging musicians and their fans.
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Depends on which side of the mirror you stand! Some folks are afraid of that mirror!

Negative, for the sake of negativity, is wrong and down right bad. I am not exactly being negative, as much as I am trying to challenge the status quo ... which has a tendency to not say anything and make a comment on a thread that is unnecessary.

You didn't get to see a lot of what I did in the history of rock music ... Roger is not the only one that doesn't like it, and he has a point ... when folks are beating each other up for a piece of the pig. And then you make personal statements, because ... well ... I don't know ... maybe you have nothing else to add to the thread!
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Gwar also did a cover of carry on wayward son. Yeah, there's a lot of strange and unexpected cover songs out there.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2024 at 10:25
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

...Depends on which side of the mirror you stand! Some folks are afraid of that mirror!...


This reminded me of something I read and idea I have heard expressed in various ways, "Don't point out other people's flaws because you're not perfect! You have to look in the mirror before you can look out the window."

Quote Negative, for the sake of negativity, is wrong and down right bad. I am not exactly being negative, as much as I am trying to challenge the status quo ... which has a tendency to not say anything and make a comment on a thread that is unnecessary.


I would say that one should not be too confident that one knows what the status quo is and not make broad assumptions about how people think. An issue with you i have had has been that you seem to make negative assumptions about people commonly, how they think, and you don't provide strong evidence or arguments to justify your position, often vague anecdotal evidence. And when people ask for specifics you tend to ignore. I have seen you complain about others perceived negativity; you seem so negative when it comes to your perceptions and assumptions about people. This has led to many, many complaints and many calls to have you banned. I think you may still benefit from holding a mirror to yourself and try to understand how others see you.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2024 at 10:29
Speaking of covers (I love lots and lots of covers and one of the best covered bands for me is Cardiacs, who I unabashedly love).

"To Go Off and Things" By Cardiacs, performed by Napalm Death





Edited by Logan - April 19 2024 at 10:29
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