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    Posted: May 17 2024 at 04:15
Inspired by the current discussion in the thread about David Gilmour's upcoming release, I decided to expand the release polls at AP to support groups of artists in addition to the time based queries (album of the year, album of the month).

So here's a poll where you can rank and/or tier all Pink Floyd releases together with all the solo releases of the PF members:

https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/pink-floyd-and-related

Have a try if you like. In order to rate/tier releases you will need to register at AP, but as with the previous polls you can participate without an account as well, in which case you'll be able to set up a ranked list and export it to this thread, where I will pick it up and add it to the combined results.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2024 at 04:35
Here's my current list to start with ...

1album cover
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Laid Back Original Classic English Prog Space Rock [user tags]
2album cover
Pink Floyd
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Pompous Creative English Prog Rock [user tags]
3album cover
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Calm Original Classic English Prog Space Rock [user tags]
"One of my favorite albums, a timeless classic. As I'm writing this in the 2020s, listening to the remastered version on Spotify, I remember the days when I would listen to this on an old tape (deck) in the 1990s." (Mike, over 1y ago)
4album cover
Pink Floyd
[user score]
Sarcastic Original Classic English Prog Rock [user tags]
5album cover
Pink Floyd
[user score]
Grim Symph English Prog Art Rock [user tags]
6album cover
Roger Waters
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Prog Rock/Independent [user tags]
7album cover
Pink Floyd
[user score]
Calm Original Classic English Prog Space Rock [user tags]
8album cover
[user score]
Prog Rock [user tags]
9album cover
Pink Floyd
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Psychedelic/Space Rock [PA genre]
Surreal Psych Exp Prog Art Krautrock [AP tags]
10album cover
[user score]
Melodic Neo English Prog Rock [user tags]
11album cover
[user score]
Cynical Minimalistic Prog-Adj Post Singer Songwriter [user tags]
12album cover
Roger Waters
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Cynical Prog-Adj Post Pop/Rock [user tags]
13album cover
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Calm Innovative Classic English Prog Avant Rock [user tags]
14album cover
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Mellow Melodic Neo Prog Rock [user tags]
15album cover
Pink Floyd
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Weird Psych Classic English Prog Avant Rock [user tags]
16album cover
David Gilmour
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Light Emotional Neo Prog Rock [user tags]
17album cover
Pink Floyd
Obscured By Clouds Soundtrack
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Prog Rock [user tags]
18album cover
David Gilmour
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Gloomy Non-Prog Blues/Rock [user tags]
19album cover
David Gilmour
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Non-Prog Rock/Blues [user tags]
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No love for "More", again. 
One of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. 

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^ Then right the wrongs and submit your list Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

No love for "More", again. 
One of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. 


Very strange its not even on the list; quite sure Mike will have heard it?

Personally, I think 'Meddle' is too low and both 'The Wall' and 'Final Cut' are too high, but there you go...
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Personally, I think 'Meddle' is too low and both 'The Wall' and 'Final Cut' are too high, but there you go...

I agree. Thumbs Up
Atom Heart Mother is too low as well. 

I'll try to rank them, it's not easy since the band has a ton of great albums. Embarrassed


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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Then right the wrongs and submit your list Smile

I'm not saying you are wrong, any ranking is subjective. 
You did not even put More in your list. Confused
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

No love for "More", again. 
One of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. 


Very strange its not even on the list; quite sure Mike will have heard it?

I have definitely heard it, but I haven't listened to it in a while and would need to listen to it again to be able to confidently put it on the list. Try it yourself - it's not so easy to rank releases when you haven't listened to them recently.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Then right the wrongs and submit your list Smile

I'm not saying you are wrong, any ranking is subjective. 
You did not even put More in your list. Confused

Which is why this must be a collaborative effort, to combine our knowledge and subjective opinions. Smile
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Try it yourself - it's not so easy to rank releases when you haven't listened to them recently.

Oh, I agree if that is the case; 'More' just seemed to be conspicuous by its absence and I knew Cristi would make a comment; he's very defensive of its reputation!

I think we did a list of favourite PF albums about 6 months ago, but I can't land on it immediately. Admittedly, I don't think it contained Solo works, however. I think it might have been one of Paul's. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

No love for "More", again. 
One of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. 


Hi,

Not surprised ... and sadly, the soundtrack is from a really good film that a lot of folks hate. The music is heard on Estelle's cassette player when she is tripping (mostly) and a lot of folks have complained that the music sounds bad ... and were, instead, expecting a Hollywood type of soundtrack with loud washes of music over the picture, and the cassette player not needed or used at all.

It adds a REAL touch to the film, that many of us don't like ... the film is very "real" and Barbet Schroeder makes sure that we "feel" it, and it is no illusion, which compares to his next film, where the illusion is right at the start of the film, even though it is a really beautiful shot by Nestor Almendros, who also did the cinematography for MORE ... and it is really well done, despite what looks like left over and old film stock in many parts, but it is very psychedelic in its presentation. I have always had the feeling that this film was kinda done before PF even saw it, and then they decided to not bother with it, since it had a lot of artistic touches ... let's say that at times it feels like a college student film. But I have never heard anyone in PF say anything about this film ... probably to make sure they could distance themselves from the drugs that they were already advertising were no longer there ... but given Syd's story, that is really not a surprise.

I'm not sure that some folks will bother with this film, or soundtrack ... they are the fans of the 2nd era of PF (probably should be mentioned as 3rd!) ... and they have very little appreciation for things before hand ... they like the popular numbers. PF audience changed after DSOTM and it went to bad, and then ridiculous and then pathetic.


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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Try it yourself - it's not so easy to rank releases when you haven't listened to them recently.

Oh, I agree if that is the case; 'More' just seemed to be conspicuous by its absence and I knew Cristi would make a comment; he's very defensive of its reputation!

I think we did a list of favourite PF albums about 6 months ago, but I can't land on it immediately. Admittedly, I don't think it contained Solo works, however. I think it might have been one of Paul's. 

That's why I thought this poll would be interesting, there's about 60 releases by PF and their members in the database. Smile

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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

No love for "More", again. 
One of my favorite Pink Floyd albums. 


Hi,

Not surprised ... and sadly, the soundtrack is from a really good film that a lot of folks hate. The music is heard on Estelle's cassette player when she is tripping (mostly) and a lot of folks have complained that the music sounds bad ... and were, instead, expecting a Hollywood type of soundtrack with loud washes of music over the picture, and the cassette player not needed or used at all.

It adds a REAL touch to the film, that many of us don't like ... the film is very "real" and Barbet Schroeder makes sure that we "feel" it, and it is no illusion, which compares to his next film, where the illusion ends right at the start of the film, even though it is a really beautiful shot by Nestor Almendros, who also did the cinematography for MORE ... and it is well done, despite what looks like left over and old film stock in many parts, but it is very psychedelic in its presentation.

I'm not sure that some folks will bother with this film, or soundtrack ... they are the fans of the 2nd era of PF (probably should be mentioned as 3rd!) ... and they have very little appreciation for things before hand ... they like the popular numbers. PF audience changed after DSOTM and it went to bad, and then ridiculous and then pathetic.

I've seen the movie, the music is used differently, some songs are not in their full length, and also the order of the songs is different if I remember right. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

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I've seen the movie, the music is used differently, some songs are not in their full length, and also the order of the songs is different if I remember right. 

Hi,

I think a lot of those decisions might have to be made from Barbet's mind, since there might be some stuff they could not get out of ... the appearance of what looks like old film stocks (the colors end up being a bit fuzzy or not as bright) ... and then ... oh well, we only have 30 seconds of film left ... and take the shot as far as one can. Compare this to the next film, where you can see that a lot of money was wasted for a film that really has no story or a lot of value, other than a lot of ad-libs from the French contingent of their national theater and the English contingent of the same. But the film lacked a "reality" that MORE showed, which this new film couldn't due to the amount of money thrown around.

It would have been interesting to see a director's cut of this film, although I think that their budget was next to minus 10 francs ... and the film managed to get done, despite all the issues, but the decision of how to use the music, for me, is a beautiful touch, and something that most folks watching movies don't get and many fans got upset over the use of the music, and how could PF allow that film to be made.  The "reality" in it, is far out, and in many ways makes the addiction part of the film very uncomfortable.

BTW, a lot of Barbet's films were about various addictions ... and the trippy side of PF's music before DSOTM suggests that the whole thing is about the trip with the music ... which was what they did from 1971 until DSOTM finally was released and went monster gagagoogoo.
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Listened to Rick Wright's Wet Dream which was re-released last year - not bad! Updated list as tiers:



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^ Wet Dream is Richard Wright's album. Underrated & overlooked if you ask me. 

Edited by Cristi - May 17 2024 at 07:11
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^ Yes of course, I miswrote. Juggling too many releases simultaneously ... and listening to PF - More. Wacko
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^^ I guess you've still got Piper & Endless River to go as essentials, then Relics as an optional??
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^ I was kind of hoping that some of you would also submit your lists, so that we see from the combined list which releases end up as the collective essentials Smile

But sure, at least Piper is a definitive candidate.
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

^^ I guess you've still got Piper & Endless River to go as essentials, then Relics as an optional??

I used to have a compilation of their early singles, a few of them were on Relics as well. Smile
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