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The greatest of them all is Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells. Some others worth mentioning (not necessarily my fave by the band or artist):

Alquin - Marks
Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
Deluge Grander - August in the Urals
Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
ELP - s/t
Hamadryad - Conservation of Mass
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Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Shamblemaths - s/t
Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico




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Lots of debuts I love, for for a long running band with many albums, Kobaïa cannot be beaten for me. Magma has been going for 55 years, released lots of great albums, and that double-album from 1970 still can't be beat for me. A remarkable debut from a remarkable band.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Question:  Which was the Genesis debut?  

"From Genesis to Revelation" or "Trespass"?  The latter is surely the stronger LP! 

Also, many of these bands had "proto-debut" LPs.  

For example, "The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp" clearly led into ITCOTCK!

Great discussion everyone!!  Paul, thanks for the amazing list! Clap

As far as a "proto-debut" LP, I would include Jethro Tull's This Was from 1968. It may have been the first album under that band name, but it was more of a collaboration in blues-rock and jazz with Mick Abrahams and Ian Anderson sharing the spotlight. It wasn't until 1969's Stand Up that we get the truer prog direction of the band. 
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Yep in my book an E.P. (occasionally known as a maxi-single) contains 3-6 tracks and plays for around 10-20 minutes (i.e longer than the traditional 7" single). An album usually clocks in at 30+ minutes... anything in between can probably be described as a mini-album.

Although it's not hard and fast, and indeed gets more intriguing them more you delve into it.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

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^^For me it's very simple. The debut is the first album released by the specific artist or band. The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp isn't the band King Crimson, but From Genesis to Revelation is released by Genesis - the band. That's why to me In the Court of the Crimson King is the former bands debut - and Trespass is the latter band's second album.

Yes and I can understand why people say DOFP is the first Moody Blues album (even the band themselves considered it to be) but really it isn't because they had some of the same members plus the name is the same. Otherwise the first Renaissance album isn't Renaissance and also you could say Genesis didn't start until Trespass or Nursery Cryme and Yes didn't start until the Yes album but then it starts to get a bit silly. 
I suppose I can understand it, but it's not correct and I don't agree. And I find it pointless. Some bands deliver a classic debut album - others need a few attemnts to get it right.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

For me it's very simple. The debut is the first album released by the specific artist or band.
Not necessarily. If the first album is an EP, I wouldn't call it the debut. Or if the first album was released by the record company without permission from the artist, and said artist received no compensation from that release, for example, Allan Holdsworth's "Velvet Darkness" then it is not their debut.
It's still relatively simple to me - an EP is an EP, just like a Single is a Single release and can never be an album. 
-An album released by the record company without permission from the artist is such a rare exception from "my rule", that is doesn't have an impact on how I think. But I agree that it doesn't count, as it's not the artists own album creation.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

For me it's very simple. The debut is the first album released by the specific artist or band.
Not necessarily. If the first album is an EP, I wouldn't call it the debut. Or if the first album was released by the record company without permission from the artist, and said artist received no compensation from that release, for example, Allan Holdsworth's "Velvet Darkness" then it is not their debut.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^^For me it's very simple. The debut is the first album released by the specific artist or band. The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp isn't the band King Crimson, but From Genesis to Revelation is released by Genesis - the band. That's why to me In the Court of the Crimson King is the former bands debut - and Trespass is the latter band's second album.

Yes and I can understand why people say DOFP is the first Moody Blues album (even the band themselves considered it to be) but really it isn't because they had some of the same members plus the name is the same. Otherwise the first Renaissance album isn't Renaissance and also you could say Genesis didn't start until Trespass or Nursery Cryme and Yes didn't start until the Yes album but then it starts to get a bit silly. 
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Originally posted by Sir Prog-a-lot Sir Prog-a-lot wrote:

Family - Music In a Doll's House
Caravan - Caravan
Fantasy - Paint a Picture
Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow
Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
Goblin - Profondo Rosso (Colonna Sonora Originale Del Film)
Lenny White - Venusian Summer
Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte
Utopia - Todd Rundgren's Utopia
Tako - Tako


Thanks for reminding me that it's Music In A Doll's House and not From. I'll have to go fix that. Wink I know of  the others on your list but haven't heard them so I'll have to check them out. The Jon Anderson and Steve Hackett are both great though and worthy of inclusion for sure. 
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^^For me it's very simple. The debut is the first album released by the specific artist or band. The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp isn't the band King Crimson, but From Genesis to Revelation is released by Genesis - the band. That's why to me In the Court of the Crimson King is the former bands debut - and Trespass is the latter band's second album.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

OP here - Thanks, everyone, this is great!!  Clap

A few of my personal favorites include:

Captain Beyond, s/t 
Uriah Heep, "Very Eavy....Very 'Umble" (US release had the amazing song "Bird of Prey")
Styx, s/t 
Starcastle, s/t 
Flash, s/t 

Having been around a number of bands that were recording their debut LP, I know that the energy runs very high in the studio!!  



I was going to mention Captain Beyond but wasn't sure if it was prog enough. Great album though.
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Question:  Which was the Genesis debut?  

"From Genesis to Revelation" or "Trespass"?  The latter is surely the stronger LP! 

Also, many of these bands had "proto-debut" LPs.  

For example, "The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp" clearly led into ITCOTCK!

Great discussion everyone!!  Paul, thanks for the amazing list! Clap
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

 Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U.
Thank You Scientist - Maps of Non-Existent Places
Steely Dan - Can't Buy A Thrill
Animals As Leaders - s/t
Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour
Riverside - Out Of Myself
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U.K. - s/t

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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Nova Collective - The Further Side

I guess if you only have one album, and it's killer, that counts.
I could have added.

Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U.
Adrian Belew - Lone Rhino
Mike Keneally - Hat
Wippy Bonstack - Dataland
The Aristocrats - s/t
Thank You Scientist - Maps of Non-Existent Places
Bubblemath - Such Fine Particles of the Universe
Steely Dan - Can't Buy A Thrill
Animals As Leaders - s/t
Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour
Pat Metheny Group - s/t
Marco Minnemann - The Green Mindbomb
Riverside - Out Of Myself
Frost* - Milliontown
U.K. - s/t

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Top 100 Amazing British Prog Debuts Thumbs Up

5 stars 1976: Absolute Elsewhere - In Search of Ancient Gods - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1PWRzBzSJLiAbHJyBuTavdm5_RF1v3Vs
5 stars 1976: Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MdPa3vbmz8
5 stars 1969: Arzachel - Arzachel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRW8bkl33yU
5 stars 1970: Peter Bardens - The Answer  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyHE7zQoGE
5 stars 1970: Beggars Opera - Act One - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKyuhcIPapo
5 stars 1968: Canterbury Glass - Sacred Scenes and Characters - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG6wb3xyVYyAjMwqVvz1Z9mYGVSz8Q4g4
5 stars 1974: Captain Marryat - Captain Marryat - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anYEEQrX20
5 stars 1971: Catapilla - Catapilla  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAWCAuqa-Q
5 stars 1969: Circus - Circus  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMh58tYKpD4
5 stars 1993: Cyan - For King and Country - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacxgQvJe8A  
5 stars 1972: Dancer - Tales of the Riverbank  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtitA1jS2Q
5 stars 1972: Brian Davison's Every Which Way - Every Which Way (Prog Related) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9qFDNGdTdI
5 stars 1987: Geoff Downes & New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program -   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEapk1L5x6Xvsc0u4w1rIcMr
5 stars 2011: Edison's Children - In the Last Waking Moments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEb_s6dSYhR2sUilYyHWZW6y
5 stars 1970: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LupA_HcmerhVcS72ZRm6z5f
5 stars 1976: The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdU5MQKDXsk
5 stars 2011: Sean Filkins - War and Peace & Other Short Stories
5 stars 1971: Fuchsia - Fuchsia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Ge5jbctAk
5 stars 1970: The Ghost - When You're Dead - One Second  - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxKT6ZtYAcRCxj0aV-A0jiTku8Kljj4L8
5 stars 1970: The Greatest Show On Earth - Horizons  - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CaYHAcNe1ftTHRrIr6IsVE3n2haQaQ6
5 stars 1972: Nicholas Greenwood - Cold Cuts  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWP9qeM8_0
5 stars 1972: Gringo - Gringo  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weh0SXhJ1iE
5 stars 1973: Ken Hensley - Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf  - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_keNEV6L1KU8YFfo40oB4bCTANhI5xxHzI
5 stars 1971: Indian Summer - Indian Summer  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=outeMg7vQY0
5 stars 1969: Jody Grind - One Step On - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jij3QGYVVes
5 stars 1975: Justin Hayward & John Lodge - Blue Jays - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4qgULCZHCwI3C39IGo3ZAFW7TCpLa1MM
5 stars 1999: Janison Edge - The Services of Mary Goode - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFB21013D2A0BD780
5 stars 2007: Iain Jennings' Breathing Space - Coming Up for Air - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m-k1G3-5l988MDK_6ixN0gjIPx7MuQxOw
5 stars 1970: Julian's Treatment - A Time Before This - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTD9SWyXtvk
5 stars 1970: Justine - Justine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1O5W3Dc3bQ
5 stars 1969: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXhfRoiJBIiuXOUv_7EJ1i7UKj0aGfy0U
 2012: Francis Lickerish - Far and Forgot: From the Lost Lands - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kq-pjlZUbHbWHat5VafAgRa4jb9t9rILI
5 stars 2013: Lifesigns - Lifesigns - http://lifesigns1.bandcamp.com/album/lifesigns
5 stars 1983: Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYO9m_YiZnLF4CPjxkF2Cam
5 stars 1971: Nektar - Journey to the Centre of the Eye - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynjoDkG1vw
5 stars 1999: Clive Nolan & Oliver Wakeman - Jabberwocky - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRNzuC_raR9uuKARO42tGdSHYyL3Wn79g
5 stars 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0
5 stars 1972: The Parlour Band - Is a Friend?  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkZpxz2uMU
5 stars 1976: The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination (Crossover Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNCAUSEhegqjQAMMocw1QFu9G-bE4zeTM
5 stars 1973: Peggy's Leg - Grinilla  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLlWZ2pPKI
5 stars 1977: Anthony Phillips - The Geese and the Ghost - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lgdg15vMyGQO3dBj0h075-2csAyvKeowI
5 stars 1969: Pussy - Pussy Plays  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGqnjEkfTg
5 stars 1970: Quatermass - Quatermass  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4JYseU0yrw
5 stars 1974: Quicksand - Home is Where I Belong  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhE3_E9MhkQ
5 stars 1971: Salamander - The Ten Commandments - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78A8FiJQ0g
5 stars 1971: Still Life - Still Life - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunQ509r60Q
5 stars 1990: Strangers on a Train - The Key, Part 1: The Prophecy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXoR8LJsW2w
5 stars 1972: Sunday - Sunday  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oft6x5AinJI
5 stars 2018: Michael Alan Taylor - Avalonia (The Sonnets of Guinevere) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXkEL6wWKJh_UyirC6BwLqdd_2IAyJdUs
5 stars 2017: This Winter Machine - The Man Who Never Was - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2rDKk0-Mo
5 stars 2014: Tiger Moth Tales - Cocoon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6Yu9u24yg
5 stars 1970: Titus Groan - Titus Groan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2yT8Q531GA
5 stars 1971: Tonton Macoute - Tonton Macoute - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpoajyKcyo
5 stars 1973: Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtZowz5527OrFUPTS44Xpuc
5 stars 1980: Woolly Wolstenholme & Maestoso - Uneasy Listening (Eclectic Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS--foGRmQujWGvy2tpkDMUIjX9F_xwhQ
5 stars 1978: Richard Wright - Wet Dream (Crossover Prog) - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJIoRLgDK6z61RmX1trrdtPFVfYC24thP
5 stars 1969: Writing on the Wall - Power of the Picts - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mXEQJubcY7JTh7GRyD1A5OFrYHq1GwZm0


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Camel - Camel
Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial
Änglagård - Hybris
Anekdoten - Vemod
Happy the Man - Same


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Family - Music In a Doll's House
Caravan - Caravan
Fantasy - Paint a Picture
Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow
Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
Goblin - Profondo Rosso (Colonna Sonora Originale Del Film)
Lenny White - Venusian Summer
Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte
Utopia - Todd Rundgren's Utopia
Tako - Tako
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene
His third album actually.
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OP here - Thanks, everyone, this is great!!  Clap

A few of my personal favorites include:

Captain Beyond, s/t 
Uriah Heep, "Very Eavy....Very 'Umble" (US release had the amazing song "Bird of Prey")
Styx, s/t 
Starcastle, s/t 
Flash, s/t 

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^I forgot all about PG's debut and also RW and Kansas. 


Another good one is the first David Gilmour album. 


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