Praised prog albums that you think are overrated

siLLy puPPy wrote: ^ well virtually every site on the web considers them both prog.

I'm afraid that's irrelevant. For example, in this site database, one can find a bunch of post-rock and even 80s post-punk bands. Are they progressive rock bands now only because somebody added them to this database? No.

siLLy puPPy wrote: Starshiper wrote: ThyroidGlands wrote: For example, I feel that everything PT and Wilson did is highly overrated. Honestly, I tried many times to listen to their music, and it doesn’t appeal to me at all. PT and Wilson are actually alt-rock, not progressive rock. Not true. They're both. There are many albums from both SW and PT that are prog. Melodic prog with catchy pop hooks sure, but definitely prog.

Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson, who initially emerged as a slightly psychedelic alternative rock ensemble with a long tail rooted in post-punk, can occasionally be described as “proggy” at their most ambitious. However, PT and Wilson never released a true progressive rock or progressive metal album; their sound is fundamentally characterised as alternative rock or alternative metal.

Starshiper wrote: ThyroidGlands wrote: For example, I feel that everything PT and Wilson did is highly overrated. Honestly, I tried many times to listen to their music, and it doesn’t appeal to me at all. PT and Wilson are actually alt-rock, not progressive rock.

Cristi wrote: Grumpyprogfan wrote: This may cause severe outrage, but I think all of Neo-Prog (minus Frost* and Sanguine Hum) is overrated. Overrated?! I don't see it.  Sure, I can think of a few neo-prog albums I find overrated, but the genre as a whole, it's not. In fact is one of the least liked prog subgenres, on PA and i imagine elsewhere as well.

In fact, sales figures indicate otherwise. While Neo-Prog bands may not attain the same level of mainstream recognition as pop or rock superstars, many have enjoyed commendable sales figures within their niche. For instance, Marillion has sold over 15 million albums globally since the release of Script for a Jester's Tear; their annual convention events draw hundreds of fans who purchase tickets well in advance. Their most recent album, "An Hour Before It's Dark", entered the UK Albums Chart at No. 2. Other Neo-Prog bands, such as IQ, Pallas, and Pendragon, are performing well in terms of both album sales and concert ticket sales; they got favourable reception from fans and critics regarding their latest albums.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote: ^ that works. The irony is that English is stupid sometimes. To overdo something is too do something too much. To overexercise is to exercise to much THEN a improper definition like overrate DOESN'T mean to rate too much but to rate too highly. Seems we need another prefix. German and Russian do a somewhat better job at this sorta thing ;) German has the same problem, the corresponding word "überbewertet" does not indicate whether it's about quantity or level. I guess in most languages it's mostly about level and then also about quantity (an overrated item has too many high ratings).

This may cause severe outrage, but I think all of Neo-Prog (minus Frost* and Sanguine Hum) is overrated.

Overrated is, of course, a subjective term - one likes what one likes and that's that.  We may argue over the merits of the Mahavishnu Orchestra, but I'm still going to go home and enjoy another spin of Birds of Fire.  That said, I think there are just too many Rush, Opeth, Dream Theater, and Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson albums in the Top 100......I dig most of those bands but I think the "fanboy" aspect has taken from the spirit of the poll.  Rush's Hemispheres certainly deserves favor, as does Opeth's Heritage LP (I know, I know), the early PT catalog is a gas, but when the list leans too heavily on these bands, an opportunity for other equally worthy LPs that PA punters could potentially discover is lost.

cstack3 wrote: richardh wrote: We are social animals so wanting to be part of a group is not that strange. Subjectively I really dislike Larks Tongues In Aspic.  Well, then, I guess you and I belong to different groups!   I think LTIA is one of the best albums ever recorded in rock history.

siLLy puPPy wrote: ^ that works. The irony is that English is stupid sometimes. To overdo something is too do something too much. To overexercise is to exercise to much THEN a improper definition like overrate DOESN'T mean to rate too much but to rate too highly. Seems we need another prefix. German and Russian do a somewhat better job at this sorta thing ;)

Edited by MikeEnRegalia - November 29 2024 at 02:31